the Acid3 Test
http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/...O_NOT_USE.html
might be ready this year or so.

will IE8 pass it, when it becomes available?

What part of NOT READY DO NOT USE don't you understand? IE8 will be ready
when it's ready.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

"Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> the Acid3 Test
> http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/...O_NOT_USE.html
> might be ready this year or so.
>
> will IE8 pass it, when it becomes available?

"Abraxias" wrote in message
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> the Acid3 Test
> http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/...O_NOT_USE.html
> might be ready this year or so.
>
> will IE8 pass it, when it becomes available?


Did you even bother to read http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/003/?
You proliferated Acid3 here as though it was completed but the author
says otherwise. If you walk forward from his home page, you get to
http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/ which does NOT list version 3.
Oh yeah, we are supposed to care about an incomplete test suite for a
web browser that is not yet available, uh huh. Sure, yep, we will
know WHEN IE8 is *available* AND when Acid3 is also *available*.

If you want to find out how IE8 fared against Acid2 (which *does*
exist) then go read
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...milestone.aspx.

You might also want to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid2
where it says, "Internet Explorer 8 will include a new rendering mode
known as "IE8 standards mode".[8] IE8 standards mode is not enabled by
default, but can be triggered by inserting a special flag into a web
page.[8] In IE8 standards mode, IE8 passes the Acid2 test,[9] but
since IE8 standards mode is not enabled by default,[10] IE8 cannot be
considered to truly pass the test." Sounds a bit backwards to have a
web site dictate what compliancy a browser will obey. Also notice
what it says about Firefox and Acid2.

hi Peter,

what part of my original post did you NOT understand? read it through.

I wrote: "might be ready this year or so." which means that I do
understand that Acid3 is NOT yet ready.

and, I agree with you, "IE8 will be ready when its ready." BUT, will it be
ready for Acid3? I'm hoping that it would be. (I know about IE8 passing the
Acid2.)

"Peter" wrote:

> What part of NOT READY DO NOT USE don't you understand? IE8 will be ready
> when it's ready.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
> Triple Boot
>
> "Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:53860E21-827D-48CF-A9A1-0A495DFDBD21@microsoft.com...
> > the Acid3 Test
> > http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/...O_NOT_USE.html
> > might be ready this year or so.
> >
> > will IE8 pass it, when it becomes available?

hi VanguardLH,

I wrote: "the Acid3 Test...MIGHT be ready this year or so." how did I
"proliferated Acid3 here as though it was completed"?


"VanguardLH" wrote:
> Did you even bother to read http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/003/?
> You proliferated Acid3 here as though it was completed but the author
> says otherwise. If you walk forward from his home page, you get to
> http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/ which does NOT list version 3.
> Oh yeah, we are supposed to care about an incomplete test suite for a
> web browser that is not yet available, uh huh. Sure, yep, we will
> know WHEN IE8 is *available* AND when Acid3 is also *available*.
>
> If you want to find out how IE8 fared against Acid2 (which *does*
> exist) then go read
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...milestone.aspx.
>
> You might also want to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid2
> where it says, "Internet Explorer 8 will include a new rendering mode
> known as "IE8 standards mode".[8] IE8 standards mode is not enabled by
> default, but can be triggered by inserting a special flag into a web
> page.[8] In IE8 standards mode, IE8 passes the Acid2 test,[9] but
> since IE8 standards mode is not enabled by default,[10] IE8 cannot be
> considered to truly pass the test." Sounds a bit backwards to have a
> web site dictate what compliancy a browser will obey. Also notice
> what it says about Firefox and Acid2.

Take nop notice Abraxias - I was in a bad mood when I posted. I think
someone else posted a link about IE8 and Acidtest2.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

"Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> hi Peter,
>
> what part of my original post did you NOT understand? read it through.
>
> I wrote: "might be ready this year or so." which means that I do
> understand that Acid3 is NOT yet ready.
>
> and, I agree with you, "IE8 will be ready when its ready." BUT, will it
> be
> ready for Acid3? I'm hoping that it would be. (I know about IE8 passing
> the
> Acid2.)
>
> "Peter" wrote:
>
>> What part of NOT READY DO NOT USE don't you understand? IE8 will be
>> ready
>> when it's ready.
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>> Toronto, Canada
>> XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
>> Triple Boot
>>
>> "Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:53860E21-827D-48CF-A9A1-0A495DFDBD21@microsoft.com...
>> > the Acid3 Test
>> > http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/...O_NOT_USE.html
>> > might be ready this year or so.
>> >
>> > will IE8 pass it, when it becomes available?

hi Peter,

offtopic: hope you're feeling better! ;-)


"Peter" wrote:

> Take nop notice Abraxias - I was in a bad mood when I posted. I think
> someone else posted a link about IE8 and Acidtest2.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
> Triple Boot
>
> "Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7EA304B0-7600-49F7-A57E-8CFF5554F6A3@microsoft.com...
> > hi Peter,
> >
> > what part of my original post did you NOT understand? read it through.
> >
> > I wrote: "might be ready this year or so." which means that I do
> > understand that Acid3 is NOT yet ready.
> >
> > and, I agree with you, "IE8 will be ready when its ready." BUT, will it
> > be
> > ready for Acid3? I'm hoping that it would be. (I know about IE8 passing
> > the
> > Acid2.)
> >
> > "Peter" wrote:
> >
> >> What part of NOT READY DO NOT USE don't you understand? IE8 will be
> >> ready
> >> when it's ready.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peter
> >> Toronto, Canada
> >> XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
> >> Triple Boot
> >>
> >> "Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:53860E21-827D-48CF-A9A1-0A495DFDBD21@microsoft.com...
> >> > the Acid3 Test
> >> > http://www.hixie.ch/tests/evil/acid/...O_NOT_USE.html
> >> > might be ready this year or so.
> >> >
> >> > will IE8 pass it, when it becomes available?

"Abraxias" wrote in message
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> hi VanguardLH,
>
> I wrote: "the Acid3 Test...MIGHT be ready this year or so." how
> did I
> "proliferated Acid3 here as though it was completed"?

"This year" is already here. It always is. Without indicating that
you mean months away from know (and which obviously no one could
guess), the vague term means the *immediate* future, not off until you
have to rake the leaves again next fall.

hi VanguardLH,

offtopic: keyword is "MIGHT"; if you chose to ignore it OR if you don't
know what it means, then that's not my problem. you can debate about this
"offtopic" for whatever its worth for you; I don't have to explain the
meaning of "MIGHT".

peace.


"VanguardLH" wrote:

> "Abraxias" wrote in message
> news:555C2727-AC25-425F-9EC6-0372B77045D2@microsoft.com...
> > hi VanguardLH,
> >
> > I wrote: "the Acid3 Test...MIGHT be ready this year or so." how
> > did I
> > "proliferated Acid3 here as though it was completed"?
>
> "This year" is already here. It always is. Without indicating that
> you mean months away from know (and which obviously no one could
> guess), the vague term means the *immediate* future, not off until you
> have to rake the leaves again next fall.
>
>

"Abraxias" wrote in message
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>
> offtopic: keyword is "MIGHT"; if you chose to ignore it OR if you
> don't
> know what it means, then that's not my problem. you can debate
> about this
> "offtopic" for whatever its worth for you; I don't have to explain
> the
> meaning of "MIGHT".


So why not ask the author of the Acid tests if his version 3, as it
currently stands, will pass Internet Explorer 8 - providing the author
has some inside contacts to shovel an unreleased version of the
product his way. You could also ask the author what tests are planned
to be included and have him guess as to whether IE8 will pass. What
response do you think you would get from the author on such guesses?