For no apparent reason, I am suddenly unable to post or read Usenet
newsgroups using Outlook Express 6.

Yet I am able to post and read Usenet using Thunderbird in Fedora 6.

My .dbx files don't seem too big. But I deleted several old ones, not
sure that was wise.

Clicking on a newsgroup causes a dialog box asking for my userid and
password at my ISP. Entering them just causes the dialog box to repeat.
There is no error code that I can see. The symptom appears to be the
ISP's nntp server is down, but that can't be true because I am able to
use the ISP's nntp server under Thunderbird.

I deleted my OE 6 account, and recreated it, with no effect.

Any suggestions?

Make OE the default e-mail client:
http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx

For links in e-mail:
http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx

And:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306098

Restores OE to the E-mail clients list in Internet Options
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/oe_client.htm

If you have MS Outlook installed, also see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13

"Send To" and E-mail Links Do Not Work Using Outlook Express as Default:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306098
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Harry Thompson" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> For no apparent reason, I am suddenly unable to post or read Usenet
> newsgroups using Outlook Express 6.
>
> Yet I am able to post and read Usenet using Thunderbird in Fedora 6.
>
> My .dbx files don't seem too big. But I deleted several old ones, not sure
> that was wise.
>
> Clicking on a newsgroup causes a dialog box asking for my userid and
> password at my ISP. Entering them just causes the dialog box to repeat.
> There is no error code that I can see. The symptom appears to be the ISP's
> nntp server is down, but that can't be true because I am able to use the
> ISP's nntp server under Thunderbird.
>
> I deleted my OE 6 account, and recreated it, with no effect.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>

I looked but I don't see how this is my problem.

I use OE strictly for Usenet, and Outlook for email, calendar, tasks,
contacts, etc.

I'm not having a mail problem, but a posting problem. I realize nntp is not
that different from smtp and pop3 but there is a difference.

There was a hint in your references to the registry. Perhaps something went
wrong there.

BTW, I am able to use OE for Usenet on msnew.microsoft.com. If this reply
post goes thru, that might help
narrow the problem down to OE versus my ISP.

Let's not stop here. I'm open to any and all suggestions.


"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23$C3TAB6IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Make OE the default e-mail client:
> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>
> For links in e-mail:
> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>
> And:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306098
>
> Restores OE to the E-mail clients list in Internet Options
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/oe_client.htm
>
> If you have MS Outlook installed, also see:
> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13
>
> "Send To" and E-mail Links Do Not Work Using Outlook Express as Default:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306098
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Harry Thompson" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:9CHfk.476$eE4.278@newsfe09.iad...
>> For no apparent reason, I am suddenly unable to post or read Usenet
>> newsgroups using Outlook Express 6.

Oops! I sent the wrong canned reply.

Outlook Express keeps prompting for your password
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_oe_passwords.htm

Save password setting not retained in Outlook or Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290684

Cannot Save E-Mail Account Password in Outlook Express 5
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=228713

Save Password Check Box Is Unavailable
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=137361

If still no joy, remove the account, reboot and then add it back.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Harry Thompson" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>I looked but I don't see how this is my problem.
>
> I use OE strictly for Usenet, and Outlook for email, calendar, tasks,
> contacts, etc.
>
> I'm not having a mail problem, but a posting problem. I realize nntp is
> not that different from smtp and pop3 but there is a difference.
>
> There was a hint in your references to the registry. Perhaps something
> went wrong there.
>
> BTW, I am able to use OE for Usenet on msnew.microsoft.com. If this reply
> post goes thru, that might help
> narrow the problem down to OE versus my ISP.
>
> Let's not stop here. I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23$C3TAB6IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Make OE the default e-mail client:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx
>>
>> For links in e-mail:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx
>>
>> And:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306098
>>
>> Restores OE to the E-mail clients list in Internet Options
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/oe_client.htm
>>
>> If you have MS Outlook installed, also see:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13
>>
>> "Send To" and E-mail Links Do Not Work Using Outlook Express as Default:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306098
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Harry Thompson" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:9CHfk.476$eE4.278@newsfe09.iad...
>>> For no apparent reason, I am suddenly unable to post or read Usenet
>>> newsgroups using Outlook Express 6.
>
>

Does your ISP require to to logon to the news server? Some do, many
don't.

Look at Tools, Accounts, News, Properties, Server. Uncheck the box
"This server requires me to logon" and try again.

If you still have problems, try setting up a news account in OE for the
Microsoft news server.
To set up an account for MSnews in OE
http://www.insideoe.com/resources/co...tm#setupmsnews

If that works, then the issue is likely that you don't have the correct
account settings for your ISP's news server.

If the Microsoft news server also fails, then it could be that your
firewall is selectively blocking port 119 for OE but not other news
programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Harry Thompson" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:9CHfk.476$eE4.278@newsfe09.iad...
> For no apparent reason, I am suddenly unable to post or read Usenet
> newsgroups using Outlook Express 6.
>
> Yet I am able to post and read Usenet using Thunderbird in Fedora 6.
>
> My .dbx files don't seem too big. But I deleted several old ones, not
> sure that was wise.
>
> Clicking on a newsgroup causes a dialog box asking for my userid and
> password at my ISP. Entering them just causes the dialog box to
> repeat. There is no error code that I can see. The symptom appears to
> be the ISP's nntp server is down, but that can't be true because I am
> able to use the ISP's nntp server under Thunderbird.
>
> I deleted my OE 6 account, and recreated it, with no effect.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>

Michael Santovec wrote:
> Does your ISP require to to logon to the news server? Some do, many
> don't.
>
> Look at Tools, Accounts, News, Properties, Server. Uncheck the box
> "This server requires me to logon" and try again.
>
> If you still have problems, try setting up a news account in OE for the
> Microsoft news server.
> To set up an account for MSnews in OE
> http://www.insideoe.com/resources/co...tm#setupmsnews
>
> If that works, then the issue is likely that you don't have the correct
> account settings for your ISP's news server.
>
> If the Microsoft news server also fails, then it could be that your
> firewall is selectively blocking port 119 for OE but not other news
> programs.

Thanks, folks. None of the suggestions seem to work. Using OE I have no
trouble with msnews.

I thought it might be a corrupted registry, but I have the same problem
on a different PC that I seldom use anymore. It's hard to believe that
both registries would get corrupted in the same way at the same time.
This is a very sudden problem. Early in the morning OE worked as
expected, and later the same day, it didn't.

I'm left with the suspicion that it is some sort of interplay between my
ISP and OE. The help desk at my ISP doesn't have anybody anymore who has
even heard of Usenet.

So, for the time being I'm giving up. I installed Thunderbird 2 on XP,
and it works fine with any nntp server, including my ISP's.

I'll check back in this ng from time to time in case there is another
suggestion.

You may want to create an NNTP log which will show more details about
the communications between Outlook Express and your news server. Select
Tools, Options, Maintenance, Troubleshooting, News. Then access the
news server. The log will be created in the same folder with your DBX
files (see Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder). The file will
have the name of the news server with a .LOG file extension. You may
need to close OE after accessing the news server for the log to get
written to disk.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Harry Thompson" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Michael Santovec wrote:
>> Does your ISP require to to logon to the news server? Some do, many
>> don't.
>>
>> Look at Tools, Accounts, News, Properties, Server. Uncheck the box
>> "This server requires me to logon" and try again.
>>
>> If you still have problems, try setting up a news account in OE for
>> the Microsoft news server.
>> To set up an account for MSnews in OE
>> http://www.insideoe.com/resources/co...tm#setupmsnews
>>
>> If that works, then the issue is likely that you don't have the
>> correct account settings for your ISP's news server.
>>
>> If the Microsoft news server also fails, then it could be that your
>> firewall is selectively blocking port 119 for OE but not other news
>> programs.
>
> Thanks, folks. None of the suggestions seem to work. Using OE I have
> no trouble with msnews.
>
> I thought it might be a corrupted registry, but I have the same
> problem on a different PC that I seldom use anymore. It's hard to
> believe that both registries would get corrupted in the same way at
> the same time. This is a very sudden problem. Early in the morning OE
> worked as expected, and later the same day, it didn't.
>
> I'm left with the suspicion that it is some sort of interplay between
> my ISP and OE. The help desk at my ISP doesn't have anybody anymore
> who has even heard of Usenet.
>
> So, for the time being I'm giving up. I installed Thunderbird 2 on XP,
> and it works fine with any nntp server, including my ISP's.
>
> I'll check back in this ng from time to time in case there is another
> suggestion.

Michael Santovec wrote:
> You may want to create an NNTP log which will show more details about
> the communications between Outlook Express and your news server. Select
> Tools, Options, Maintenance, Troubleshooting, News. Then access the
> news server. The log will be created in the same folder with your DBX
> files (see Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder). The file will
> have the name of the news server with a .LOG file extension. You may
> need to close OE after accessing the news server for the log to get
> written to disk.
>

I found it! My ISP upped password requirements, invalidated my old
password and didn't bother to notify me.

Yuck!

Thanks for the update. Glad you got it working.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Harry Thompson" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Michael Santovec wrote:
>> You may want to create an NNTP log which will show more details about
>> the communications between Outlook Express and your news server.
>> Select Tools, Options, Maintenance, Troubleshooting, News. Then
>> access the news server. The log will be created in the same folder
>> with your DBX files (see Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder).
>> The file will have the name of the news server with a .LOG file
>> extension. You may need to close OE after accessing the news server
>> for the log to get written to disk.
>>
>
> I found it! My ISP upped password requirements, invalidated my old
> password and didn't bother to notify me.
>
> Yuck!