I have it printed out, but there's a glitch somewhere in the instructions. 3
people have attempted it and the problem seems to lie with "lick on the dbx
file for the missing folder... and drag it to the Desktop." Then, the next
paragraph states "...create a folder with the "exact" same name as the bak
file you want to restore but without..." that's understood, however from
there on the instructions relate to bak files ... why did we move the dbx
files from the message store to the Desk Top then? We delete them per the
instructions, at the end. It's just not working. help...

Still no folders.

--
People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but
people will never forget how you made them feel.

There are two scenarios.

1: You have a bak file in the message store already.
2: You have a bak file in the Recycle Bin and need to restore it to the
message store, simply by clicking Restore.

The reason you must move the dbx file out of the message store is because
you can't rename a bak file to dbx if one of the same name already exists in
the store folder.

I could simply say to delete the dbx file and then rename the bak file, but
for safety's sake, I would rather see you move it elsewhere temporarily.
That way if trying to restore the bak file fails, you still have a chance to
run DBXpress on the dbx file to retrieve the messages.

Hope this is clearer.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OU29Ls9WIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I have it printed out, but there's a glitch somewhere in the instructions.
>3 people have attempted it and the problem seems to lie with "lick on the
>dbx file for the missing folder... and drag it to the Desktop." Then, the
>next paragraph states "...create a folder with the "exact" same name as the
>bak file you want to restore but without..." that's understood, however
>from there on the instructions relate to bak files ... why did we move the
>dbx files from the message store to the Desk Top then? We delete them per
>the instructions, at the end. It's just not working. help...
>
> Still no folders.
>
> --
> People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but
> people will never forget how you made them feel.
>
>

Ok - I still cannot get any folders back into my present OE - I have no idea
why they disappeared either -but so did all the Message Rules (red X'd out),
and Newsgroups.

This is terrible.


"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:OvJM279WIHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> There are two scenarios.
>
> 1: You have a bak file in the message store already.
> 2: You have a bak file in the Recycle Bin and need to restore it to the
> message store, simply by clicking Restore.
>
> The reason you must move the dbx file out of the message store is because
> you can't rename a bak file to dbx if one of the same name already exists
> in the store folder.
>
> I could simply say to delete the dbx file and then rename the bak file,
> but for safety's sake, I would rather see you move it elsewhere
> temporarily. That way if trying to restore the bak file fails, you still
> have a chance to run DBXpress on the dbx file to retrieve the messages.
>
> Hope this is clearer.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OU29Ls9WIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I have it printed out, but there's a glitch somewhere in the instructions.
>>3 people have attempted it and the problem seems to lie with "lick on the
>>dbx file for the missing folder... and drag it to the Desktop." Then, the
>>next paragraph states "...create a folder with the "exact" same name as
>>the bak file you want to restore but without..." that's understood,
>>however from there on the instructions relate to bak files ... why did we
>>move the dbx files from the message store to the Desk Top then? We delete
>>them per the instructions, at the end. It's just not working. help...
>>
>> Still no folders.
>>
>> --
>> People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but
>> people will never forget how you made them feel.
>>
>>
>

Let's say that you have a Abc.bak file.
Open OE.
Create a folder called Abc.
Access the folder.
Close OE.
Open the OE Store folder.
Remove Abc.dbx from the Store folder.
Put Abc.bak into the Store folder.
Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx.
Open OE.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:#pifciDXIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Ok - I still cannot get any folders back into my present OE - I have no
> idea why they disappeared either -but so did all the Message Rules (red
> X'd out), and Newsgroups.
>
> This is terrible.
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OvJM279WIHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> There are two scenarios.
>>
>> 1: You have a bak file in the message store already.
>> 2: You have a bak file in the Recycle Bin and need to restore it to the
>> message store, simply by clicking Restore.
>>
>> The reason you must move the dbx file out of the message store is because
>> you can't rename a bak file to dbx if one of the same name already exists
>> in the store folder.
>>
>> I could simply say to delete the dbx file and then rename the bak file,
>> but for safety's sake, I would rather see you move it elsewhere
>> temporarily. That way if trying to restore the bak file fails, you still
>> have a chance to run DBXpress on the dbx file to retrieve the messages.
>>
>> Hope this is clearer.
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:OU29Ls9WIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>I have it printed out, but there's a glitch somewhere in the
>>>instructions. 3 people have attempted it and the problem seems to lie
>>>with "lick on the dbx file for the missing folder... and drag it to the
>>>Desktop." Then, the next paragraph states "...create a folder with the
>>>"exact" same name as the bak file you want to restore but without..."
>>>that's understood, however from there on the instructions relate to bak
>>>files ... why did we move the dbx files from the message store to the
>>>Desk Top then? We delete them per the instructions, at the end. It's just
>>>not working. help...
>>>
>>> Still no folders.
>>>
>>> --
>>> People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but
>>> people will never forget how you made them feel.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

TY very much.
"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
news:eioEQkEXIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Let's say that you have a Abc.bak file.
> Open OE.
> Create a folder called Abc.
> Access the folder.
> Close OE.
> Open the OE Store folder.
> Remove Abc.dbx from the Store folder.
> Put Abc.bak into the Store folder.
> Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx.
> Open OE.
> --
> Ronald Sommer
>
> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:#pifciDXIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Ok - I still cannot get any folders back into my present OE - I have no
>> idea why they disappeared either -but so did all the Message Rules (red
>> X'd out), and Newsgroups.
>>
>> This is terrible.
>>
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OvJM279WIHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> There are two scenarios.
>>>
>>> 1: You have a bak file in the message store already.
>>> 2: You have a bak file in the Recycle Bin and need to restore it to the
>>> message store, simply by clicking Restore.
>>>
>>> The reason you must move the dbx file out of the message store is
>>> because you can't rename a bak file to dbx if one of the same name
>>> already exists in the store folder.
>>>
>>> I could simply say to delete the dbx file and then rename the bak file,
>>> but for safety's sake, I would rather see you move it elsewhere
>>> temporarily. That way if trying to restore the bak file fails, you still
>>> have a chance to run DBXpress on the dbx file to retrieve the messages.
>>>
>>> Hope this is clearer.
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OU29Ls9WIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have it printed out, but there's a glitch somewhere in the
>>>>instructions. 3 people have attempted it and the problem seems to lie
>>>>with "lick on the dbx file for the missing folder... and drag it to the
>>>>Desktop." Then, the next paragraph states "...create a folder with the
>>>>"exact" same name as the bak file you want to restore but without..."
>>>>that's understood, however from there on the instructions relate to bak
>>>>files ... why did we move the dbx files from the message store to the
>>>>Desk Top then? We delete them per the instructions, at the end. It's
>>>>just not working. help...
>>>>
>>>> Still no folders.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but
>>>> people will never forget how you made them feel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>

With all due respect to you and Bruce, may I double-check something, please?

re: Remove Abc.dbx from the Store folder.
Put Abc.bak into the Store folder.
Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx.
Open OE.

Questions:

When Abc.dbx is removed, is that where Bruce wrote to drag it to the Desk
Top?

Then, where does the Abc.bak originate, to put "into the Store folder?"

In order to "Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx" - where can that extension be
altered?

I hope you understand my need for clarification - my folders are not going
back into OE - I can 'see' them, but frankly, not certain what OE popped up
with (sans all most recent folders on 1-15-08) is what was there prior to
the Compacting (off-line, uninterrupted, etc). There are missing files with
that same date on them, and previous dates, but at this point, I'm certain
of nothing.



"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
news:eioEQkEXIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Let's say that you have a Abc.bak file.
> Open OE.
> Create a folder called Abc.
> Access the folder.
> Close OE.
> Open the OE Store folder.
> Remove Abc.dbx from the Store folder.
> Put Abc.bak into the Store folder.
> Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx.
> Open OE.
> --
> Ronald Sommer
>
> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:#pifciDXIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Ok - I still cannot get any folders back into my present OE - I have no
>> idea why they disappeared either -but so did all the Message Rules (red
>> X'd out), and Newsgroups.
>>
>> This is terrible.
>>
>>
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OvJM279WIHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> There are two scenarios.
>>>
>>> 1: You have a bak file in the message store already.
>>> 2: You have a bak file in the Recycle Bin and need to restore it to the
>>> message store, simply by clicking Restore.
>>>
>>> The reason you must move the dbx file out of the message store is
>>> because you can't rename a bak file to dbx if one of the same name
>>> already exists in the store folder.
>>>
>>> I could simply say to delete the dbx file and then rename the bak file,
>>> but for safety's sake, I would rather see you move it elsewhere
>>> temporarily. That way if trying to restore the bak file fails, you still
>>> have a chance to run DBXpress on the dbx file to retrieve the messages.
>>>
>>> Hope this is clearer.
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OU29Ls9WIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have it printed out, but there's a glitch somewhere in the
>>>>instructions. 3 people have attempted it and the problem seems to lie
>>>>with "lick on the dbx file for the missing folder... and drag it to the
>>>>Desktop." Then, the next paragraph states "...create a folder with the
>>>>"exact" same name as the bak file you want to restore but without..."
>>>>that's understood, however from there on the instructions relate to bak
>>>>files ... why did we move the dbx files from the message store to the
>>>>Desk Top then? We delete them per the instructions, at the end. It's
>>>>just not working. help...
>>>>
>>>> Still no folders.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but
>>>> people will never forget how you made them feel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>

<Inline>

"Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23wHjMMKXIHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> With all due respect to you and Bruce, may I double-check something,
> please?
>
> re: Remove Abc.dbx from the Store folder.
> Put Abc.bak into the Store folder.
> Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx.
> Open OE.
>
> Questions:
>
> When Abc.dbx is removed, is that where Bruce wrote to drag it to the Desk
> Top?


Yes.



>
> Then, where does the Abc.bak originate, to put "into the Store folder?"


If there is no ABC.bak file in the store folder now, then it should be in
the Recycle Bin, (Not Deleted Items), as this problem happened during
compacting, and OE automatically creates the bak backup file in the Recycle
bin when you compact. Right click on the ABC.bak file and then click
Restore. It will now be in the message store.




>
> In order to "Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx" - where can that extension be
> altered?



In the message store. When you get the ABC.bak in the message store, right
click on it and Rename. Change it from ABC.bak to ABC.dbx.

Note that if the ABC folder is missing from the OE folder tree, before you
do any of the, create a folder named ABC in OE and open it. Without doing
anything else, close OE and then start the restore process.

--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA



>
> I hope you understand my need for clarification - my folders are not going
> back into OE - I can 'see' them, but frankly, not certain what OE popped
> up with (sans all most recent folders on 1-15-08) is what was there prior
> to the Compacting (off-line, uninterrupted, etc). There are missing files
> with that same date on them, and previous dates, but at this point, I'm
> certain of nothing.
>
>
>
> "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
> news:eioEQkEXIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Let's say that you have a Abc.bak file.
>> Open OE.
>> Create a folder called Abc.
>> Access the folder.
>> Close OE.
>> Open the OE Store folder.
>> Remove Abc.dbx from the Store folder.
>> Put Abc.bak into the Store folder.
>> Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx.
>> Open OE.
>> --
>> Ronald Sommer
>>
>> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:#pifciDXIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Ok - I still cannot get any folders back into my present OE - I have no
>>> idea why they disappeared either -but so did all the Message Rules (red
>>> X'd out), and Newsgroups.
>>>
>>> This is terrible.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:OvJM279WIHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> There are two scenarios.
>>>>
>>>> 1: You have a bak file in the message store already.
>>>> 2: You have a bak file in the Recycle Bin and need to restore it to the
>>>> message store, simply by clicking Restore.
>>>>
>>>> The reason you must move the dbx file out of the message store is
>>>> because you can't rename a bak file to dbx if one of the same name
>>>> already exists in the store folder.
>>>>
>>>> I could simply say to delete the dbx file and then rename the bak file,
>>>> but for safety's sake, I would rather see you move it elsewhere
>>>> temporarily. That way if trying to restore the bak file fails, you
>>>> still have a chance to run DBXpress on the dbx file to retrieve the
>>>> messages.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this is clearer.
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OU29Ls9WIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I have it printed out, but there's a glitch somewhere in the
>>>>>instructions. 3 people have attempted it and the problem seems to lie
>>>>>with "lick on the dbx file for the missing folder... and drag it to the
>>>>>Desktop." Then, the next paragraph states "...create a folder with the
>>>>>"exact" same name as the bak file you want to restore but without..."
>>>>>that's understood, however from there on the instructions relate to bak
>>>>>files ... why did we move the dbx files from the message store to the
>>>>>Desk Top then? We delete them per the instructions, at the end. It's
>>>>>just not working. help...
>>>>>
>>>>> Still no folders.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did,
>>>>> but
>>>>> people will never forget how you made them feel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Got it! Thank you very much.

"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23YMg5TKXIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> <Inline>
>
> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23wHjMMKXIHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> With all due respect to you and Bruce, may I double-check something,
>> please?
>>
>> re: Remove Abc.dbx from the Store folder.
>> Put Abc.bak into the Store folder.
>> Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx.
>> Open OE.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> When Abc.dbx is removed, is that where Bruce wrote to drag it to the Desk
>> Top?
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
>>
>> Then, where does the Abc.bak originate, to put "into the Store folder?"
>
>
> If there is no ABC.bak file in the store folder now, then it should be in
> the Recycle Bin, (Not Deleted Items), as this problem happened during
> compacting, and OE automatically creates the bak backup file in the
> Recycle bin when you compact. Right click on the ABC.bak file and then
> click Restore. It will now be in the message store.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> In order to "Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx" - where can that extension be
>> altered?
>
>
>
> In the message store. When you get the ABC.bak in the message store, right
> click on it and Rename. Change it from ABC.bak to ABC.dbx.
>
> Note that if the ABC folder is missing from the OE folder tree, before you
> do any of the, create a folder named ABC in OE and open it. Without doing
> anything else, close OE and then start the restore process.
>
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
>
>>
>> I hope you understand my need for clarification - my folders are not
>> going back into OE - I can 'see' them, but frankly, not certain what OE
>> popped up with (sans all most recent folders on 1-15-08) is what was
>> there prior to the Compacting (off-line, uninterrupted, etc). There are
>> missing files with that same date on them, and previous dates, but at
>> this point, I'm certain of nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
>> news:eioEQkEXIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Let's say that you have a Abc.bak file.
>>> Open OE.
>>> Create a folder called Abc.
>>> Access the folder.
>>> Close OE.
>>> Open the OE Store folder.
>>> Remove Abc.dbx from the Store folder.
>>> Put Abc.bak into the Store folder.
>>> Rename Abc.bak to Abc.dbx.
>>> Open OE.
>>> --
>>> Ronald Sommer
>>>
>>> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#pifciDXIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ok - I still cannot get any folders back into my present OE - I have no
>>>> idea why they disappeared either -but so did all the Message Rules (red
>>>> X'd out), and Newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>> This is terrible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:OvJM279WIHA.5340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> There are two scenarios.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1: You have a bak file in the message store already.
>>>>> 2: You have a bak file in the Recycle Bin and need to restore it to
>>>>> the message store, simply by clicking Restore.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason you must move the dbx file out of the message store is
>>>>> because you can't rename a bak file to dbx if one of the same name
>>>>> already exists in the store folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could simply say to delete the dbx file and then rename the bak
>>>>> file, but for safety's sake, I would rather see you move it elsewhere
>>>>> temporarily. That way if trying to restore the bak file fails, you
>>>>> still have a chance to run DBXpress on the dbx file to retrieve the
>>>>> messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this is clearer.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Laughingstar~*" <uP_n_aWaynospam368@nOtMeyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OU29Ls9WIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I have it printed out, but there's a glitch somewhere in the
>>>>>>instructions. 3 people have attempted it and the problem seems to lie
>>>>>>with "lick on the dbx file for the missing folder... and drag it to
>>>>>>the Desktop." Then, the next paragraph states "...create a folder with
>>>>>>the "exact" same name as the bak file you want to restore but
>>>>>>without..." that's understood, however from there on the instructions
>>>>>>relate to bak files ... why did we move the dbx files from the message
>>>>>>store to the Desk Top then? We delete them per the instructions, at
>>>>>>the end. It's just not working. help...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still no folders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> people will never forget how you made them feel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>