Hi
I have installed windows mobile 6.1 on my htc touch
I have problem with my free ram, the more I use the device the more memory
will be used...
I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
problem ?
I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
what can I do ?
thnx

At 17 May 2008 00:20:38 +0330 Farshad Zolfaghari wrote:
> Hi
> I have installed windows mobile 6.1 on my htc touch
> I have problem with my free ram, the more I use the device the more
memory will be used...
> I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
problem ?
> I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
> what can I do ?
> thnx


Hope they fix it in WM7? ;-)

My Wizard has had that issue in both WM5 and WM6. Too bad- I was hoping
6.1 would improve it.

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:29pXj.256$og1.86
@fe117.usenetserver.com:

> At 17 May 2008 00:20:38 +0330 Farshad Zolfaghari wrote:
>> Hi
>> I have installed windows mobile 6.1 on my htc touch
>> I have problem with my free ram, the more I use the device the more
> memory will be used...
>> I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
> problem ?
>> I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
>> what can I do ?
>> thnx
>
>
> Hope they fix it in WM7? ;-)
>
> My Wizard has had that issue in both WM5 and WM6. Too bad- I was hoping
> 6.1 would improve it.
>
>
>

I have no experience with later versions, but in WM2003, simply closing an
applications screen does not shut down the programs, so they come back
quicker, and in the state you left them, when you start the program up
again. I suspect it is the same way in WM6. In 2003, you can browse
through SETTINGS to RUNNING PROGRAMS, and kill them there. There are
utilities available that make programs easier to kill.


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Scott
Reverse name to reply

Even stopping running programs (settings/system tab/memory/running programs
tab/stop) does not necessarily free up ram. When I first got my HTC 6800
with WM6 I had 22mb of 47 free with no running programs, now I have 9.

MoffCH

"Scott Seidman" wrote:

> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:29pXj.256$og1.86
> @fe117.usenetserver.com:
>
> > At 17 May 2008 00:20:38 +0330 Farshad Zolfaghari wrote:
> >> Hi
> >> I have installed windows mobile 6.1 on my htc touch
> >> I have problem with my free ram, the more I use the device the more
> > memory will be used...
> >> I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
> > problem ?
> >> I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
> >> what can I do ?
> >> thnx
> >
> >
> > Hope they fix it in WM7? ;-)
> >
> > My Wizard has had that issue in both WM5 and WM6. Too bad- I was hoping
> > 6.1 would improve it.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I have no experience with later versions, but in WM2003, simply closing an
> applications screen does not shut down the programs, so they come back
> quicker, and in the state you left them, when you start the program up
> again. I suspect it is the same way in WM6. In 2003, you can browse
> through SETTINGS to RUNNING PROGRAMS, and kill them there. There are
> utilities available that make programs easier to kill.
>
>
> --
> Scott
> Reverse name to reply
>

At 17 May 2008 01:15:41 +0000 Scott Seidman wrote:

> >> I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
> >> problem ?
> >> I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
> >> what can I do ?
> >> thnx
> >
> >
> > Hope they fix it in WM7? ;-)
> >
> > My Wizard has had that issue in both WM5 and WM6. Too bad- I was hoping
> > 6.1 would improve it.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I have no experience with later versions, but in WM2003, simply closing
an
> applications screen does not shut down the programs, so they come back
> quicker, and in the state you left them, when you start the program up
> again. I suspect it is the same way in WM6. In 2003, you can browse
> through SETTINGS to RUNNING PROGRAMS, and kill them there. There are
> utilities available that make programs easier to kill.


I made the assumption that if the OP has the software and ability to check
the size of services.exe, he's familiar with task management. On my device
the services.exe, filesys.exe and gwes.exe tasks swell to several MB over
time. They're at 4.9, 3.4 and 2.8 right now, leaving me at only 10MB of
RAM with "nothing" running vs. over 20MB after a reboot.

You are correct that default "X" behavior is the same in WM6 as always, but
many devices include OEM-supplied task managers right in ROM these days.

Is it an official or an unofficial (cooked) ROM?

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Farshad Zolfaghari" <info@datisdesign.com> wrote in message
news:eKxIH44tIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi
> I have installed windows mobile 6.1 on my htc touch
> I have problem with my free ram, the more I use the device the more memory
> will be used...
> I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
> problem ?
> I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
> what can I do ?
> thnx

I have tested both official and unofficial roms, but I have same problem !


"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
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> Is it an official or an unofficial (cooked) ROM?
>
> --
>
>
> --
> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
> Devices
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>
>
> "Farshad Zolfaghari" <info@datisdesign.com> wrote in message
> news:eKxIH44tIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>> I have installed windows mobile 6.1 on my htc touch
>> I have problem with my free ram, the more I use the device the more
>> memory will be used...
>> I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
>> problem ?
>> I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
>> what can I do ?
>> thnx
>
>

You could post a message to the XDA-Devs Touch forums asking for help.

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Farshad Zolfaghari" <info@datisdesign.com> wrote in message
news:%23yqMx$QuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have tested both official and unofficial roms, but I have same problem !
>
>
> "Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
> <!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
> news:um7EJOLuIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Is it an official or an unofficial (cooked) ROM?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> --
>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
>> Devices
>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>>
>>
>> "Farshad Zolfaghari" <info@datisdesign.com> wrote in message
>> news:eKxIH44tIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>> I have installed windows mobile 6.1 on my htc touch
>>> I have problem with my free ram, the more I use the device the more
>>> memory will be used...
>>> I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
>>> problem ?
>>> I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
>>> what can I do ?
>>> thnx
>>
>>

On 17 May 2008 01:15:41 GMT, Scott Seidman
<namdiesttocs@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:29pXj.256$og1.86
>@fe117.usenetserver.com:
>
>> At 17 May 2008 00:20:38 +0330 Farshad Zolfaghari wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> I have installed windows mobile 6.1 on my htc touch
>>> I have problem with my free ram, the more I use the device the more
>> memory will be used...
>>> I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
>> problem ?
>>> I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
>>> what can I do ?
>>> thnx
>>
>>
>> Hope they fix it in WM7? ;-)
>>
>> My Wizard has had that issue in both WM5 and WM6. Too bad- I was hoping
>> 6.1 would improve it.
>>
>>
>>
>
>I have no experience with later versions, but in WM2003, simply closing an
>applications screen does not shut down the programs, so they come back
>quicker, and in the state you left them, when you start the program up
>again. I suspect it is the same way in WM6. In 2003, you can browse
>through SETTINGS to RUNNING PROGRAMS, and kill them there. There are
>utilities available that make programs easier to kill.

Microsoft decreed that users should not be allowed to close a Pocket
PC /Windows Mobile program. And they enforce that decree by making it
the default behavior and not providing a logo (Certified for Windows
Mobile). Thus, the "X" box usually hides, but does not close, a
program, and any company that wants to sell their program(s) retail
bows to Microsoft's demands (would you buy a program from a store if
the box didn't have the logo?). (Yes, I know about "violations" by
many programs, including Microsoft's, and no, I can't defend the
decree.)

I inferred that the original poster _had_ used
Settings->System->Memory to really close the programs, but was still
having problems.

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So only way is to restarting the device ?! that's really disturbing !!!

<r_z_aret@pen_fact.com> wrote in message
news:sn33349p4998m6dr2suclhc1g697mmnlb1@4ax.com...
> On 17 May 2008 01:15:41 GMT, Scott Seidman
> <namdiesttocs@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:29pXj.256$og1.86
>>@fe117.usenetserver.com:
>>
>>> At 17 May 2008 00:20:38 +0330 Farshad Zolfaghari wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> I have installed windows mobile 6.1 on my htc touch
>>>> I have problem with my free ram, the more I use the device the more
>>> memory will be used...
>>>> I always close my programs but the used memory wont back, what is the
>>> problem ?
>>>> I have noticed that shell32 became larger and larger
>>>> what can I do ?
>>>> thnx
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope they fix it in WM7? ;-)
>>>
>>> My Wizard has had that issue in both WM5 and WM6. Too bad- I was hoping
>>> 6.1 would improve it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I have no experience with later versions, but in WM2003, simply closing an
>>applications screen does not shut down the programs, so they come back
>>quicker, and in the state you left them, when you start the program up
>>again. I suspect it is the same way in WM6. In 2003, you can browse
>>through SETTINGS to RUNNING PROGRAMS, and kill them there. There are
>>utilities available that make programs easier to kill.
>
> Microsoft decreed that users should not be allowed to close a Pocket
> PC /Windows Mobile program. And they enforce that decree by making it
> the default behavior and not providing a logo (Certified for Windows
> Mobile). Thus, the "X" box usually hides, but does not close, a
> program, and any company that wants to sell their program(s) retail
> bows to Microsoft's demands (would you buy a program from a store if
> the box didn't have the logo?). (Yes, I know about "violations" by
> many programs, including Microsoft's, and no, I can't defend the
> decree.)
>
> I inferred that the original poster _had_ used
> Settings->System->Memory to really close the programs, but was still
> having problems.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> To reply to me, remove the underscores (_) from my email address (and
> please indicate which newsgroup and message).
>
> Robert E. Zaret, eMVP
> PenFact, Inc.
> 20 Park Plaza, Suite 478
> Boston, MA 02116
> www.penfact.com