I have a pocketPC Phone running WM6.0 . I can connect with WIFI. I am
confused in setting up connection in order for the browser to access the
internet using the WIFI connection. I do not want to use the GPRS connection
for economic reason.

How do I set the connection to access internet using WIFI only?

Benedictum wrote on 22 jul 2008 in microsoft.public.pocketpc:

> I have a pocketPC Phone running WM6.0 . I can connect with WIFI. I am
> confused in setting up connection in order for the browser to access
> the internet using the WIFI connection. I do not want to use the GPRS
> connection for economic reason.
>
> How do I set the connection to access internet using WIFI only?

Pockettoolman 2, an very nice application, makes it onandoffable.

"PT2 supports Windows Mobile 6 Professional only. It is written
specifically for the HTC TyTN II, HTC Touch, and the AT&T Tilt, though it
should work with other Windows Mobile 6 Professional devices."

See the other features here:
<http://pockettoolman.blogspot.com/>

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The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

When the WiFi connection is established all communication (with a few
exceptions like direct push which will still use cellular data) will be done
through the WiFi connection.

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The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support. microsoft.com This posting is
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"Benedictum" <Benedictus@dominusvobis.com> wrote in message
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>I have a pocketPC Phone running WM6.0 . I can connect with WIFI. I am
>confused in setting up connection in order for the browser to access the
>internet using the WIFI connection. I do not want to use the GPRS
>connection for economic reason.
>
> How do I set the connection to access internet using WIFI only?
>
>
>

At 22 Jul 2008 14:30:08 -0400 Eric Hicks (That_Kid)-MS MVP - Mobile Devices
wrote:
> When the WiFi connection is established all communication (with a
> few exceptions like direct push which will still use cellular data) will
> be done through the WiFi connection.


While mostly true, users can still get into trouble. In Messaging, for
example, each POP/IMAP account lets you choose the data connection method
that app will use. Selecting your cellular data plan forces the devive to
usethat, even if you turn on WiFi.

I agree with Todd. That is the problem I am having. It seems that the
message and IE browsers want to use gprs.

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:g67fk1$asb$5@aioe.org...
> At 22 Jul 2008 14:30:08 -0400 Eric Hicks (That_Kid)-MS MVP - Mobile
> Devices
> wrote:
>> When the WiFi connection is established all communication (with a
>> few exceptions like direct push which will still use cellular data) will
>> be done through the WiFi connection.
>
>
> While mostly true, users can still get into trouble. In Messaging, for
> example, each POP/IMAP account lets you choose the data connection method
> that app will use. Selecting your cellular data plan forces the devive to
> usethat, even if you turn on WiFi.
>
>

At 23 Jul 2008 23:53:43 -0500 Benedictum wrote:
> I agree with Todd. That is the problem I am having. It seems that the
> message and IE browsers want to use gprs.


The trick is configuring the Connections applet properly.

In Start/Settings/Connection (Tab)/Connections/Advanced(Tab)/Select Networks,
there are two drop down bars, ("Programs that connect to the internet..."
and "to a private network...") which for brevity I'll call the "top" and
"bottom" bars. Since no one sems to have ever adequately understood or
explained their function, my names are as good as anyones! ;-)

Any "network" you select in those bars can have dial up "connections"
defined in them - either GPRS/3G, "Cellular Line" (old 1x GSM CSD), or an
external modem (CF card, Bluetoot , infrared, or anything else your device
supports.)

Now, in a perfect world, WiFi "trumps" (superceeds) any defined dialup
connection so when WiFi is on, that's what should work with the default
defined dialup connection (GPRS, etc.) only "kicking in" when a network
connection (WiFi or Activesync) isn't available.

So, in theory, only one "network" needs to be defined- the cellular
company's (that's American for "mobile operator"!) data connection, which
will be superceeded by WiFi if/when available.

However, in our imperfect world, mobile operators often force some or all
of their data users through proxy servers for a variety of nefarious reasons,
and those proxies aren't available on WiFi- only over the mobile data
connection, so if your operator uses a proxy (like mine, T-Mobile USA, does
on their cheaper "WAP" plans like I subscribe to) "WiFi" networks need to
be defined separately as a "blank" nework with NO dialup connections
defined in them. I use the already included, and ambiguously named, "My
Work Network" for WiFi connections, and"T-Mobile Data" for mobile data,
with T-Mo's proxy server info entered in that "netork" setting's "proxy" tab.


Now for some disclosure: I don't know WHY the following setup works, but it
does, and that's good enough for me!

If I put "My Work Network" in the "top" network drop down bar, and my
mobile data ("T-Mobile Data" in my case) in the bottom, IE Mobile and
Activesync (Exchange server sync) will use WiFi when available (top bar)
and mobile data (bottom) when it isn't.

Messaging, however, is a bit more complicated, since the connection method
has to be defined separately for each IMAP or POP account. To make an
account use WiFi, I can either select "My Work Network" or "Internet"
(which I've come to discover means "whatever network is in the top bar" in
"Select Networks.") To use my mobile operator for a Messaging account I
can select "T-Mobile Data" or "Work" (which means "whatever is in the
bottom bar.")

Unfortunately, there is no messaging setting that share's IE Mobile's (and
Activesync's) behavior of "try the top bar first (WiFi), then fall back to
the bottom (mobile data), if the top is unavailable" so I just select
"Work" (bottom bar/mobile data) since it's always available (unlike WiFi)
and my data plan is unlimited rather than pay per kb.

The above soliloquy made some kind of sense in my head- hopefully it makes
equal sense on your screen. Fire any questions (or requests for
clarification!) and I'll do my best to oblige!

Hey Todd, Thanks, I got the thing working! Despite not fully understanding
your instructions, I managed to make it work. From what I gathered from your
tutorial here is what I did:

I created a dummy network connection, which I called "nothing" and pointed
to no modem. I removed other connections. This was then placed on the
"bottom" . I just created a connection called "WIFI" and placed on the
"top". I know I have disabled gprs connection and I really do not care for
it -- much too expensive for browsing

With free WIFI connections all around I will not miss gprs. (anyway, I have
laptop connect from ATT in case I am in dire need of internet access).


"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:g695cr$m2r$1@aioe.org...
> At 23 Jul 2008 23:53:43 -0500 Benedictum wrote:
>> I agree with Todd. That is the problem I am having. It seems that the
>> message and IE browsers want to use gprs.
>
>
> The trick is configuring the Connections applet properly.
>
> In Start/Settings/Connection (Tab)/Connections/Advanced(Tab)/Select
> Networks,
> there are two drop down bars, ("Programs that connect to the internet..."
> and "to a private network...") which for brevity I'll call the "top" and
> "bottom" bars. Since no one sems to have ever adequately understood or
> explained their function, my names are as good as anyones! ;-)
>
> Any "network" you select in those bars can have dial up "connections"
> defined in them - either GPRS/3G, "Cellular Line" (old 1x GSM CSD), or an
> external modem (CF card, Bluetoot , infrared, or anything else your device
> supports.)
>
> Now, in a perfect world, WiFi "trumps" (superceeds) any defined dialup
> connection so when WiFi is on, that's what should work with the default
> defined dialup connection (GPRS, etc.) only "kicking in" when a network
> connection (WiFi or Activesync) isn't available.
>
> So, in theory, only one "network" needs to be defined- the cellular
> company's (that's American for "mobile operator"!) data connection, which
> will be superceeded by WiFi if/when available.
>
> However, in our imperfect world, mobile operators often force some or all
> of their data users through proxy servers for a variety of nefarious
> reasons,
> and those proxies aren't available on WiFi- only over the mobile data
> connection, so if your operator uses a proxy (like mine, T-Mobile USA,
> does
> on their cheaper "WAP" plans like I subscribe to) "WiFi" networks need to
> be defined separately as a "blank" nework with NO dialup connections
> defined in them. I use the already included, and ambiguously named, "My
> Work Network" for WiFi connections, and"T-Mobile Data" for mobile data,
> with T-Mo's proxy server info entered in that "netork" setting's "proxy"
> tab.
>
>
> Now for some disclosure: I don't know WHY the following setup works, but
> it
> does, and that's good enough for me!
>
> If I put "My Work Network" in the "top" network drop down bar, and my
> mobile data ("T-Mobile Data" in my case) in the bottom, IE Mobile and
> Activesync (Exchange server sync) will use WiFi when available (top bar)
> and mobile data (bottom) when it isn't.
>
> Messaging, however, is a bit more complicated, since the connection method
> has to be defined separately for each IMAP or POP account. To make an
> account use WiFi, I can either select "My Work Network" or "Internet"
> (which I've come to discover means "whatever network is in the top bar" in
> "Select Networks.") To use my mobile operator for a Messaging account I
> can select "T-Mobile Data" or "Work" (which means "whatever is in the
> bottom bar.")
>
> Unfortunately, there is no messaging setting that share's IE Mobile's (and
> Activesync's) behavior of "try the top bar first (WiFi), then fall back to
> the bottom (mobile data), if the top is unavailable" so I just select
> "Work" (bottom bar/mobile data) since it's always available (unlike WiFi)
> and my data plan is unlimited rather than pay per kb.
>
> The above soliloquy made some kind of sense in my head- hopefully it makes
> equal sense on your screen. Fire any questions (or requests for
> clarification!) and I'll do my best to oblige!
>
>