PDA #1 Axim X51v Rom A12
PDA #2 Axim X51v Rom A12
Active Sync NOT USED
Desktop Computer NOT USED
Backup/transfer Medium SD card.

I have one (base) X51v that I use for normal stuff.
I have a second one (scratch) that I use for messing around with
freeware etc.
I want to periodically clone the base unit to the scratch unit
and start over from a known state.

I use the internal backup program to backup the base system to the SD card.
I hard reset the scratch machine and restore from the SD card.
This works mostly.
I have to change the DeviceID if I want to use them both at the same
time on the network, but this isn't usually an issue.

But the wireless encryption code is not restored, so I have to go look
it up and type it in.

And email accounts are not created. I have to manually recreate the
accounts
and, again, go look up all the data and type it in.
I don't save email, so I don't care if the mail is there.
But I do care that I can't check email without recreating
the accounts manually.

I googled for hours.
I took a quick look at PIM backup, but it says right in the
release notes that it won't restore accounts.

I haven't tried restoring to the same machine, but I'm expecting
the same result.

The internal backup application says (backup all data) but doesn't
seem to be doing that.

What am I doing wrong? Yes, I checked all the boxes int he backup app.
Is there a freeware way to clone a system that's not more work than
typing in the stuff that's missing?

I won't put activebloat er sync on my main machine and dragging
the cradle off to the scratch machine is more work than recreating the
accounts.

Suggestions?

Thanks, mike

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The built-in backup utility sucks. Try to do the same with, say, Spb or
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"mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:YKCSi.2193$vw2.1807@trnddc01...
> PDA #1 Axim X51v Rom A12
> PDA #2 Axim X51v Rom A12
> Active Sync NOT USED
> Desktop Computer NOT USED
> Backup/transfer Medium SD card.
>
> I have one (base) X51v that I use for normal stuff.
> I have a second one (scratch) that I use for messing around with
> freeware etc.
> I want to periodically clone the base unit to the scratch unit
> and start over from a known state.
>
> I use the internal backup program to backup the base system to the SD
> card.
> I hard reset the scratch machine and restore from the SD card.
> This works mostly.
> I have to change the DeviceID if I want to use them both at the same
> time on the network, but this isn't usually an issue.
>
> But the wireless encryption code is not restored, so I have to go look
> it up and type it in.
>
> And email accounts are not created. I have to manually recreate the
> accounts
> and, again, go look up all the data and type it in.
> I don't save email, so I don't care if the mail is there.
> But I do care that I can't check email without recreating
> the accounts manually.
>
> I googled for hours.
> I took a quick look at PIM backup, but it says right in the
> release notes that it won't restore accounts.
>
> I haven't tried restoring to the same machine, but I'm expecting
> the same result.
>
> The internal backup application says (backup all data) but doesn't
> seem to be doing that.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Yes, I checked all the boxes int he backup app.
> Is there a freeware way to clone a system that's not more work than
> typing in the stuff that's missing?
>
> I won't put activebloat er sync on my main machine and dragging
> the cradle off to the scratch machine is more work than recreating the
> accounts.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks, mike
>
> --
> Return address is VALID!

Mike,

Have you looked at Sprite Backup? I believe it will do what you need.

http://www.spritesoftware.com/store/...n=HMP-Icon-Ad1

Regards,


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Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
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"mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:YKCSi.2193$vw2.1807@trnddc01...
> PDA #1 Axim X51v Rom A12
> PDA #2 Axim X51v Rom A12
> Active Sync NOT USED
> Desktop Computer NOT USED
> Backup/transfer Medium SD card.
>
> I have one (base) X51v that I use for normal stuff.
> I have a second one (scratch) that I use for messing around with
> freeware etc.
> I want to periodically clone the base unit to the scratch unit
> and start over from a known state.
>
> I use the internal backup program to backup the base system to the SD
> card.
> I hard reset the scratch machine and restore from the SD card.
> This works mostly.
> I have to change the DeviceID if I want to use them both at the same
> time on the network, but this isn't usually an issue.
>
> But the wireless encryption code is not restored, so I have to go look
> it up and type it in.
>
> And email accounts are not created. I have to manually recreate the
> accounts
> and, again, go look up all the data and type it in.
> I don't save email, so I don't care if the mail is there.
> But I do care that I can't check email without recreating
> the accounts manually.
>
> I googled for hours.
> I took a quick look at PIM backup, but it says right in the
> release notes that it won't restore accounts.
>
> I haven't tried restoring to the same machine, but I'm expecting
> the same result.
>
> The internal backup application says (backup all data) but doesn't
> seem to be doing that.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Yes, I checked all the boxes int he backup app.
> Is there a freeware way to clone a system that's not more work than
> typing in the stuff that's missing?
>
> I won't put activebloat er sync on my main machine and dragging
> the cradle off to the scratch machine is more work than recreating the
> accounts.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks, mike
>
> --
> Return address is VALID!

I've used Sprite backup in the past to swap mine and my Wife's X50's. She
had complained hers was acting up and I wanted to determine if it was some
program, the hardware, or her. Just backed up each to the flash and restored
to the other device. Everything transferred fine, so that should work for
you. FWIW, it turns out her digitizer was acting up and Dell replaced the
unit.

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MS MVP Mobile Devices
"Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices"
<management@no.spam.thanks.clintonfitch.com> wrote in message
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> Mike,
>
> Have you looked at Sprite Backup? I believe it will do what you need.
>
> http://www.spritesoftware.com/store/...n=HMP-Icon-Ad1
>
> Regards,
>
>
> --
> Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>
>
> "mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YKCSi.2193$vw2.1807@trnddc01...
>> PDA #1 Axim X51v Rom A12
>> PDA #2 Axim X51v Rom A12
>> Active Sync NOT USED
>> Desktop Computer NOT USED
>> Backup/transfer Medium SD card.
>>
>> I have one (base) X51v that I use for normal stuff.
>> I have a second one (scratch) that I use for messing around with
>> freeware etc.
>> I want to periodically clone the base unit to the scratch unit
>> and start over from a known state.
>>
>> I use the internal backup program to backup the base system to the SD
>> card.
>> I hard reset the scratch machine and restore from the SD card.
>> This works mostly.
>> I have to change the DeviceID if I want to use them both at the same
>> time on the network, but this isn't usually an issue.
>>
>> But the wireless encryption code is not restored, so I have to go look
>> it up and type it in.
>>
>> And email accounts are not created. I have to manually recreate the
>> accounts
>> and, again, go look up all the data and type it in.
>> I don't save email, so I don't care if the mail is there.
>> But I do care that I can't check email without recreating
>> the accounts manually.
>>
>> I googled for hours.
>> I took a quick look at PIM backup, but it says right in the
>> release notes that it won't restore accounts.
>>
>> I haven't tried restoring to the same machine, but I'm expecting
>> the same result.
>>
>> The internal backup application says (backup all data) but doesn't
>> seem to be doing that.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong? Yes, I checked all the boxes int he backup app.
>> Is there a freeware way to clone a system that's not more work than
>> typing in the stuff that's missing?
>>
>> I won't put activebloat er sync on my main machine and dragging
>> the cradle off to the scratch machine is more work than recreating the
>> accounts.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks, mike
>>
>> --
>> Return address is VALID!
>
>

Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices] wrote:
> The built-in backup utility sucks. Try to do the same with, say, Spb or
> Sprite Backup. See my Backup Bible for more info.
>
Thanks, I'll give it a try.

I did find one interesting thing. When I cloned my X51v, the email
accounts were missing. But when I ran PIMbackup on it,
The running log claimed to be backing up the non-existent accounts.
So, the data gets restored, but the linkage into Outlook doesn't.
Restoring the PIMbackup didn't help.

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Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices] wrote:
> The built-in backup utility sucks. Try to do the same with, say, Spb or
> Sprite Backup. See my Backup Bible for more info.
>
That statement seems inconsistent with the excerpt from the Backup Bible:
"Note that it's only lately that its bugs have all been fixed; this
means it (at last) works flawlessly as of ROM version A12 of the Dell
Axim x51v (I've thoroughly checked this)"

And optimistic for a program that can't even restore mail accounts,
probably the #2 use of a PDA.

????????

I tried sprite, no cab, install on pc gives errors. Suspect I could fix
it by installing more MSI bloatware, but the program just complains about
missing files and directs me to edit the registry...bad form...

SPB seems to backup, but if I have to buy two licenses...well...that
ain't gonna happen.

If I stick to freeware with cab files, it's less hassle to reinstall
everything than to back it up.

Thanks, anyway,
mike

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