The first time I sync'd everything was fine. The next day I only wanted to
sync Files for other purposes, I unchecked Contacts and everything else,
received the files I needed. Later went to contacts nothing there, so I
resync'd contacts. A day later I sync'd more Files, with contacts unchecked,
all contacts disappeared again. Ant ideas "Why contacts disappear"?

At 29 Jun 2008 21:04:01 -0400 Duh wrote:
> The first time I sync'd everything was fine. The next day I only
> wanted to sync Files for other purposes, I unchecked Contacts
> and everything else, received the files I needed. Later went to
> contacts nothing there, so I resync'd contacts. A day later I sync'd
> more Files, with contacts unchecked, all contacts disappeared again.
> Ant ideas "Why contacts disappear"?



That's the way WM works- it assume that the data "belongs" to the PC, so
when you uncheck the data type, that data is removed from the device.

While that may seem to be a silly design decision, the real question is why
are you unchecking it each sync? If you haven't changed anything, that
sync will happen (relatively) quickly, since the device and PC will deduce
that nothing has changed. OTOH, initial syncs, like when you check the
contacts box, take forever, comparatively, since the PC now has to copy
every Contact to the device.

Just leave everything you want synched checked, and it'll all go much more
smoothly! ;-).

"Todd Allcock" wrote:

> At 29 Jun 2008 21:04:01 -0400 Duh wrote:
> > The first time I sync'd everything was fine. The next day I only
> > wanted to sync Files for other purposes, I unchecked Contacts
> > and everything else, received the files I needed. Later went to
> > contacts nothing there, so I resync'd contacts. A day later I sync'd
> > more Files, with contacts unchecked, all contacts disappeared again.
> > Ant ideas "Why contacts disappear"?
>
>
>
> That's the way WM works- it assume that the data "belongs" to the PC, so
> when you uncheck the data type, that data is removed from the device.
>
> While that may seem to be a silly design decision, the real question is why
> are you unchecking it each sync? If you haven't changed anything, that
> sync will happen (relatively) quickly, since the device and PC will deduce
> that nothing has changed. OTOH, initial syncs, like when you check the
> contacts box, take forever, comparatively, since the PC now has to copy
> every Contact to the device.
>
> Just leave everything you want synched checked, and it'll all go much more
> smoothly! ;-).
>
>
>
> The reasoning behind that, I have modified the contacts on my phone for family and friends. I wanted to leave all the others (business, clubs, others) on my computer. When I sync, it pulls every contact over to my phone, which I do not want (way too many). If I uncheck contacts, it deletes my modified (shortened) list. Now when I sync to update personal file and documents, all contacts dissapear. Downloading and syncing files is primarily all I need to do, not contacts. This should be all together a seperate issue.

Use a contacts folder in Outlook. Since ActiveSync will not sync contacts
from folders, store the things that you *don't* want to go to the device in
those folders and leave the things that you *do* want synchronized in the
main folder.

Paul T.

"duh" <duh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9C53C43A-1098-4FD9-9C55-D88241C86535@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Todd Allcock" wrote:
>
>> At 29 Jun 2008 21:04:01 -0400 Duh wrote:
>> > The first time I sync'd everything was fine. The next day I only
>> > wanted to sync Files for other purposes, I unchecked Contacts
>> > and everything else, received the files I needed. Later went to
>> > contacts nothing there, so I resync'd contacts. A day later I sync'd
>> > more Files, with contacts unchecked, all contacts disappeared again.
>> > Ant ideas "Why contacts disappear"?
>>
>>
>>
>> That's the way WM works- it assume that the data "belongs" to the PC, so
>> when you uncheck the data type, that data is removed from the device.
>>
>> While that may seem to be a silly design decision, the real question is
>> why
>> are you unchecking it each sync? If you haven't changed anything, that
>> sync will happen (relatively) quickly, since the device and PC will
>> deduce
>> that nothing has changed. OTOH, initial syncs, like when you check the
>> contacts box, take forever, comparatively, since the PC now has to copy
>> every Contact to the device.
>>
>> Just leave everything you want synched checked, and it'll all go much
>> more
>> smoothly! ;-).
>>
>>
>>
>> The reasoning behind that, I have modified the contacts on my phone for
>> family and friends. I wanted to leave all the others (business, clubs,
>> others) on my computer. When I sync, it pulls every contact over to my
>> phone, which I do not want (way too many). If I uncheck contacts, it
>> deletes my modified (shortened) list. Now when I sync to update personal
>> file and documents, all contacts dissapear. Downloading and syncing files
>> is primarily all I need to do, not contacts. This should be all together
>> a seperate issue.
>
>

Well, that presents another question, how do I make a seperate (or different)
folder in Outlook contacts?

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:

> Use a contacts folder in Outlook. Since ActiveSync will not sync contacts
> from folders, store the things that you *don't* want to go to the device in
> those folders and leave the things that you *do* want synchronized in the
> main folder.
>
> Paul T.
>
> "duh" <duh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9C53C43A-1098-4FD9-9C55-D88241C86535@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "Todd Allcock" wrote:
> >
> >> At 29 Jun 2008 21:04:01 -0400 Duh wrote:
> >> > The first time I sync'd everything was fine. The next day I only
> >> > wanted to sync Files for other purposes, I unchecked Contacts
> >> > and everything else, received the files I needed. Later went to
> >> > contacts nothing there, so I resync'd contacts. A day later I sync'd
> >> > more Files, with contacts unchecked, all contacts disappeared again.
> >> > Ant ideas "Why contacts disappear"?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> That's the way WM works- it assume that the data "belongs" to the PC, so
> >> when you uncheck the data type, that data is removed from the device.
> >>
> >> While that may seem to be a silly design decision, the real question is
> >> why
> >> are you unchecking it each sync? If you haven't changed anything, that
> >> sync will happen (relatively) quickly, since the device and PC will
> >> deduce
> >> that nothing has changed. OTOH, initial syncs, like when you check the
> >> contacts box, take forever, comparatively, since the PC now has to copy
> >> every Contact to the device.
> >>
> >> Just leave everything you want synched checked, and it'll all go much
> >> more
> >> smoothly! ;-).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The reasoning behind that, I have modified the contacts on my phone for
> >> family and friends. I wanted to leave all the others (business, clubs,
> >> others) on my computer. When I sync, it pulls every contact over to my
> >> phone, which I do not want (way too many). If I uncheck contacts, it
> >> deletes my modified (shortened) list. Now when I sync to update personal
> >> file and documents, all contacts dissapear. Downloading and syncing files
> >> is primarily all I need to do, not contacts. This should be all together
> >> a seperate issue.
> >
> >
>
>
>

Well, a quick look at the menus seems to show File | New | Folder... Select
Contact Items for Folder Contains.

Paul T.

"duh" <duh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3742DBD5-9895-49EC-9C02-9C9D844E0B9B@microsoft.com...
> Well, that presents another question, how do I make a seperate (or
> different)
> folder in Outlook contacts?
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:
>
>> Use a contacts folder in Outlook. Since ActiveSync will not sync
>> contacts
>> from folders, store the things that you *don't* want to go to the device
>> in
>> those folders and leave the things that you *do* want synchronized in the
>> main folder.
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>> "duh" <duh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9C53C43A-1098-4FD9-9C55-D88241C86535@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Todd Allcock" wrote:
>> >
>> >> At 29 Jun 2008 21:04:01 -0400 Duh wrote:
>> >> > The first time I sync'd everything was fine. The next day I only
>> >> > wanted to sync Files for other purposes, I unchecked Contacts
>> >> > and everything else, received the files I needed. Later went to
>> >> > contacts nothing there, so I resync'd contacts. A day later I sync'd
>> >> > more Files, with contacts unchecked, all contacts disappeared again.
>> >> > Ant ideas "Why contacts disappear"?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That's the way WM works- it assume that the data "belongs" to the PC,
>> >> so
>> >> when you uncheck the data type, that data is removed from the device.
>> >>
>> >> While that may seem to be a silly design decision, the real question
>> >> is
>> >> why
>> >> are you unchecking it each sync? If you haven't changed anything,
>> >> that
>> >> sync will happen (relatively) quickly, since the device and PC will
>> >> deduce
>> >> that nothing has changed. OTOH, initial syncs, like when you check
>> >> the
>> >> contacts box, take forever, comparatively, since the PC now has to
>> >> copy
>> >> every Contact to the device.
>> >>
>> >> Just leave everything you want synched checked, and it'll all go much
>> >> more
>> >> smoothly! ;-).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The reasoning behind that, I have modified the contacts on my phone
>> >> for
>> >> family and friends. I wanted to leave all the others (business, clubs,
>> >> others) on my computer. When I sync, it pulls every contact over to my
>> >> phone, which I do not want (way too many). If I uncheck contacts, it
>> >> deletes my modified (shortened) list. Now when I sync to update
>> >> personal
>> >> file and documents, all contacts dissapear. Downloading and syncing
>> >> files
>> >> is primarily all I need to do, not contacts. This should be all
>> >> together
>> >> a seperate issue.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Thanks, I'll try that. I'm leaving for the holiday weekend, so it might be a
few days before I can give you some feedback.

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:

> Well, a quick look at the menus seems to show File | New | Folder... Select
> Contact Items for Folder Contains.
>
> Paul T.
>
> "duh" <duh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3742DBD5-9895-49EC-9C02-9C9D844E0B9B@microsoft.com...
> > Well, that presents another question, how do I make a seperate (or
> > different)
> > folder in Outlook contacts?
> >
> > "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Use a contacts folder in Outlook. Since ActiveSync will not sync
> >> contacts
> >> from folders, store the things that you *don't* want to go to the device
> >> in
> >> those folders and leave the things that you *do* want synchronized in the
> >> main folder.
> >>
> >> Paul T.
> >>
> >> "duh" <duh@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9C53C43A-1098-4FD9-9C55-D88241C86535@microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Todd Allcock" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> At 29 Jun 2008 21:04:01 -0400 Duh wrote:
> >> >> > The first time I sync'd everything was fine. The next day I only
> >> >> > wanted to sync Files for other purposes, I unchecked Contacts
> >> >> > and everything else, received the files I needed. Later went to
> >> >> > contacts nothing there, so I resync'd contacts. A day later I sync'd
> >> >> > more Files, with contacts unchecked, all contacts disappeared again.
> >> >> > Ant ideas "Why contacts disappear"?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> That's the way WM works- it assume that the data "belongs" to the PC,
> >> >> so
> >> >> when you uncheck the data type, that data is removed from the device.
> >> >>
> >> >> While that may seem to be a silly design decision, the real question
> >> >> is
> >> >> why
> >> >> are you unchecking it each sync? If you haven't changed anything,
> >> >> that
> >> >> sync will happen (relatively) quickly, since the device and PC will
> >> >> deduce
> >> >> that nothing has changed. OTOH, initial syncs, like when you check
> >> >> the
> >> >> contacts box, take forever, comparatively, since the PC now has to
> >> >> copy
> >> >> every Contact to the device.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just leave everything you want synched checked, and it'll all go much
> >> >> more
> >> >> smoothly! ;-).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The reasoning behind that, I have modified the contacts on my phone
> >> >> for
> >> >> family and friends. I wanted to leave all the others (business, clubs,
> >> >> others) on my computer. When I sync, it pulls every contact over to my
> >> >> phone, which I do not want (way too many). If I uncheck contacts, it
> >> >> deletes my modified (shortened) list. Now when I sync to update
> >> >> personal
> >> >> file and documents, all contacts dissapear. Downloading and syncing
> >> >> files
> >> >> is primarily all I need to do, not contacts. This should be all
> >> >> together
> >> >> a seperate issue.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

At 01 Jul 2008 17:38:13 -0700 duh wrote:

> > While that may seem to be a silly design decision, the real question is
why
> > are you unchecking it each sync?...
>
> The reasoning behind that, I have modified the contacts on my phone
> for family and friends. I wanted to leave all the others (business, clubs,
> others) on my computer. When I sync, it pulls every contact over to
> my phone, which I do not want (way too many). If I uncheck contacts,
> it deletes my modified (shortened) list. Now when I sync to update
> personal file and documents, all contacts dissapear. Downloading and
> syncing files is primarily all I need to do, not contacts. This should be
> all together a seperate issue.


As others have pointed out, you could move the contacts you don't want on
the device into a subfolder on the PC's Outlook.

As an alternative, you could sign up for a free Exchange account at
mail2web.com as a second sync connection. Get the contacts just how you
want them on the PC, then sync with the device. Now setup mail2web as the
second sync source, and the device's Contacts will sync with M2W's server
Now you can uncheck the Contacts sync box on the PC and the contacts will
NOT be deleted from the device since a sync relationship for them still
exists.