I have opened an already created/ saved visio project. I want to add more
dates/ shapes but when I choose the objects to drag over onto the timeline
they show up as normal but when I release the mouse they change to all gray.
If I compare the new object/ text with the ones already created they have the
exact same formating. What is going on? How do I get it to reflect the
correct formating?

On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:36:00 -0700, Bobbi
<Bobbi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I have opened an already created/ saved visio project. I want to add more
>dates/ shapes but when I choose the objects to drag over onto the timeline
>they show up as normal but when I release the mouse they change to all gray.
>If I compare the new object/ text with the ones already created they have the
>exact same formating. What is going on? How do I get it to reflect the
>correct formating?

Does this only happen on this diagram? What about if you create a new
diagram, does this still happen?



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Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/

To add new shapes, you're dragging and dropping from the stencil? Have you
tried to copy and paste (ctrl-D) existing shapes? Do the duplicates keep
their original color or do they turn gray also?

Wapperdude



"Bobbi" wrote:

> I have opened an already created/ saved visio project. I want to add more
> dates/ shapes but when I choose the objects to drag over onto the timeline
> they show up as normal but when I release the mouse they change to all gray.
> If I compare the new object/ text with the ones already created they have the
> exact same formating. What is going on? How do I get it to reflect the
> correct formating?

We have tried both dragging it from the stencil and copy/pasting from an
existing shape. The duplicates do not keep the format, even though in the
properties it shows it does have the same formatting as the pervious. The
wierdest part about it too is that it shows the correct formatting when you
are pasting up until you let go of the mouse, then it goes completely gray.

"WapperDude" wrote:

> To add new shapes, you're dragging and dropping from the stencil? Have you
> tried to copy and paste (ctrl-D) existing shapes? Do the duplicates keep
> their original color or do they turn gray also?
>
> Wapperdude
>
>
>
> "Bobbi" wrote:
>
> > I have opened an already created/ saved visio project. I want to add more
> > dates/ shapes but when I choose the objects to drag over onto the timeline
> > they show up as normal but when I release the mouse they change to all gray.
> > If I compare the new object/ text with the ones already created they have the
> > exact same formating. What is going on? How do I get it to reflect the
> > correct formating?

That is weird! Well, two more things to come to mind to try.
>> 1st, did you try Paul's suggestion? Here are some variants to try.
a.) in the same file, insert a new page and try dragging and
dropping shapes.
b.) in same file, insert a new page, copy your original drawing and
paste it on the new page. I suspect that things will turn gray in both cases.
c.) If you start a brand new file, do you get normal behavior when
you create a new diagram?
d.) Copy your drawing, open a new file, and paste your drawing?
Does the gray come back?

If c.) is OK, and a, b, and d are not, then I think your drawing has a
problem. If a is OK and b) is not, that also suggests your drawing has a
problem. Of course, if b) works, then, the problem, whatever it was, seems
to be gone.

Like I said, I don't know what's causing this, but, perhaps there is a way
to treat the symptoms.

Good luck. If something does/doesn't work, post the results if you don't
mind.

Wapperdude



"Bobbi" wrote:

> We have tried both dragging it from the stencil and copy/pasting from an
> existing shape. The duplicates do not keep the format, even though in the
> properties it shows it does have the same formatting as the pervious. The
> wierdest part about it too is that it shows the correct formatting when you
> are pasting up until you let go of the mouse, then it goes completely gray.
>
> "WapperDude" wrote:
>
> > To add new shapes, you're dragging and dropping from the stencil? Have you
> > tried to copy and paste (ctrl-D) existing shapes? Do the duplicates keep
> > their original color or do they turn gray also?
> >
> > Wapperdude
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bobbi" wrote:
> >
> > > I have opened an already created/ saved visio project. I want to add more
> > > dates/ shapes but when I choose the objects to drag over onto the timeline
> > > they show up as normal but when I release the mouse they change to all gray.
> > > If I compare the new object/ text with the ones already created they have the
> > > exact same formating. What is going on? How do I get it to reflect the
> > > correct formating?

We tested it and when we open a new one it doesn't do it. Also we can paste
the objects from the original doc to a new doc and it will suddenly work.
It's almost like it is stuck in gray format, readonly etc... I'm just really
curious as to what would cause this and the solution could be.

"Paul Herber" wrote:

> On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:36:00 -0700, Bobbi
> <Bobbi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I have opened an already created/ saved visio project. I want to add more
> >dates/ shapes but when I choose the objects to drag over onto the timeline
> >they show up as normal but when I release the mouse they change to all gray.
> >If I compare the new object/ text with the ones already created they have the
> >exact same formating. What is going on? How do I get it to reflect the
> >correct formating?
>
> Does this only happen on this diagram? What about if you create a new
> diagram, does this still happen?
>
>
>
> --
> Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
> Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/
>

Couple more thoughts--other than turning gray, do the shapes behave
correctly? Inherent the correct properties from the time line? Can you
manually change the color of the shape?

I would say the color change occurs as an inheritance thing. Until you
release the mouse button, the shape retains it's stencil properties. Upon
mouse release, it then inherits the page (file?) properties.

Wapperdude

"Bobbi" wrote:

> We have tried both dragging it from the stencil and copy/pasting from an
> existing shape. The duplicates do not keep the format, even though in the
> properties it shows it does have the same formatting as the pervious. The
> wierdest part about it too is that it shows the correct formatting when you
> are pasting up until you let go of the mouse, then it goes completely gray.
>
> "WapperDude" wrote:
>
> > To add new shapes, you're dragging and dropping from the stencil? Have you
> > tried to copy and paste (ctrl-D) existing shapes? Do the duplicates keep
> > their original color or do they turn gray also?
> >
> > Wapperdude
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bobbi" wrote:
> >
> > > I have opened an already created/ saved visio project. I want to add more
> > > dates/ shapes but when I choose the objects to drag over onto the timeline
> > > they show up as normal but when I release the mouse they change to all gray.
> > > If I compare the new object/ text with the ones already created they have the
> > > exact same formating. What is going on? How do I get it to reflect the
> > > correct formating?

Thank you so much. I had to wait until my coworker returned and we did try
Paul's suggestion. After creating a new doc everything seemed to go back to
normal. We then tried pasting the objects into a new doc and when we added a
new object they remained in color. I will have to wait until Thursday to try
the others though. It must be something with the page properties but I can't
figure out what.

"WapperDude" wrote:

> That is weird! Well, two more things to come to mind to try.
> >> 1st, did you try Paul's suggestion? Here are some variants to try.
> a.) in the same file, insert a new page and try dragging and
> dropping shapes.
> b.) in same file, insert a new page, copy your original drawing and
> paste it on the new page. I suspect that things will turn gray in both cases.
> c.) If you start a brand new file, do you get normal behavior when
> you create a new diagram?
> d.) Copy your drawing, open a new file, and paste your drawing?
> Does the gray come back?
>
> If c.) is OK, and a, b, and d are not, then I think your drawing has a
> problem. If a is OK and b) is not, that also suggests your drawing has a
> problem. Of course, if b) works, then, the problem, whatever it was, seems
> to be gone.
>
> Like I said, I don't know what's causing this, but, perhaps there is a way
> to treat the symptoms.
>
> Good luck. If something does/doesn't work, post the results if you don't
> mind.
>
> Wapperdude
>
>
>
> "Bobbi" wrote:
>
> > We have tried both dragging it from the stencil and copy/pasting from an
> > existing shape. The duplicates do not keep the format, even though in the
> > properties it shows it does have the same formatting as the pervious. The
> > wierdest part about it too is that it shows the correct formatting when you
> > are pasting up until you let go of the mouse, then it goes completely gray.
> >
> > "WapperDude" wrote:
> >
> > > To add new shapes, you're dragging and dropping from the stencil? Have you
> > > tried to copy and paste (ctrl-D) existing shapes? Do the duplicates keep
> > > their original color or do they turn gray also?
> > >
> > > Wapperdude
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Bobbi" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have opened an already created/ saved visio project. I want to add more
> > > > dates/ shapes but when I choose the objects to drag over onto the timeline
> > > > they show up as normal but when I release the mouse they change to all gray.
> > > > If I compare the new object/ text with the ones already created they have the
> > > > exact same formating. What is going on? How do I get it to reflect the
> > > > correct formating?

On Tue, 20 May 2008 13:03:33 -0700, Bobbi
<Bobbi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>We tested it and when we open a new one it doesn't do it. Also we can paste
>the objects from the original doc to a new doc and it will suddenly work.
>It's almost like it is stuck in gray format, readonly etc... I'm just really
>curious as to what would cause this and the solution could be.

If you want to send me the original diagram I can take a look. It
might be interesting to see what the problem was.
paul
at
pherber
dot
com




--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/