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Old 06-26-2008, 12:41 AM
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Resetting machine account password

Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same thing as
resetting the secure channel?

Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a domain
controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other DCs).

The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools description
(via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.

However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset the
secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the "secure
channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in AD?


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Thanks,
J
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:55 AM
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RE: Resetting machine account password

Sorry, that should have read:

Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same thing as
resetting the machine's password?

Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a domain
controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other DCs).

The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools description
(via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.

However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset the
secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the "secure
channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in AD?


--
Thanks,
J
--
V2


"v2win" wrote:

> Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same thing as
> resetting the secure channel?
>
> Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a domain
> controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other DCs).
>
> The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools description
> (via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.
>
> However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset the
> secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the "secure
> channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in AD?
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> J

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Old 06-26-2008, 02:07 PM
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]
 
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Re: Resetting machine account password

Check out nltest, I think that is what you are looking for.

If you want to check to see if the secure channel between a machine and the
domain is
working properly.

If you don't have the support tools installed, install them from your server
install disk.
d:\support\tools\setup.exe

nltest /sc_verify:YourDomainName

This should verify and if broken reset the trust between the client and the
domain.

/sc_reset

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

http://www.pbbergs.com

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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"v2win" <v2win@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8D4D18AE-75FB-476A-86FD-BC452E386935@microsoft.com...
> Sorry, that should have read:
>
> Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same thing
> as
> resetting the machine's password?
>
> Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a
> domain
> controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other DCs).
>
> The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools
> description
> (via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.
>
> However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset the
> secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the
> "secure
> channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in AD?
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> J
> --
> V2
>
>
> "v2win" wrote:
>
>> Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same thing
>> as
>> resetting the secure channel?
>>
>> Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a
>> domain
>> controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other DCs).
>>
>> The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools
>> description
>> (via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.
>>
>> However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset the
>> secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the
>> "secure
>> channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in
>> AD?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> J



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Old 06-26-2008, 05:08 PM
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Re: Resetting machine account password

Paul,

Thanks, but I am trying to learn if resetting the secure channel is the same
thing as resetting the machine password. BTW, <netdom verify machinename>
will also verify the secure channel and indicate with which DC the channel
exists.
--
V2


"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Check out nltest, I think that is what you are looking for.
>
> If you want to check to see if the secure channel between a machine and the
> domain is
> working properly.
>
> If you don't have the support tools installed, install them from your server
> install disk.
> d:\support\tools\setup.exe
>
> nltest /sc_verify:YourDomainName
>
> This should verify and if broken reset the trust between the client and the
> domain.
>
> /sc_reset
>
> --
> Paul Bergson
> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>
> http://www.pbbergs.com
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "v2win" <v2win@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8D4D18AE-75FB-476A-86FD-BC452E386935@microsoft.com...
> > Sorry, that should have read:
> >
> > Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same thing
> > as
> > resetting the machine's password?
> >
> > Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a
> > domain
> > controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other DCs).
> >
> > The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools
> > description
> > (via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.
> >
> > However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset the
> > secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the
> > "secure
> > channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in AD?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > J
> > --
> > V2
> >
> >
> > "v2win" wrote:
> >
> >> Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same thing
> >> as
> >> resetting the secure channel?
> >>
> >> Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a
> >> domain
> >> controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other DCs).
> >>
> >> The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools
> >> description
> >> (via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.
> >>
> >> However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset the
> >> secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the
> >> "secure
> >> channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in
> >> AD?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >> J

>
>
>

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Old 06-26-2008, 05:20 PM
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]
 
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Re: Resetting machine account password

Yes it is more or less the same. To establish a secure channel the machine
has to logon to the domain.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

http://www.pbbergs.com

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"v2win" <v2win@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
newsD510602-A838-4C42-906E-5705E3C95CBF@microsoft.com...
> Paul,
>
> Thanks, but I am trying to learn if resetting the secure channel is the
> same
> thing as resetting the machine password. BTW, <netdom verify machinename>
> will also verify the secure channel and indicate with which DC the channel
> exists.
> --
> V2
>
>
> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Check out nltest, I think that is what you are looking for.
>>
>> If you want to check to see if the secure channel between a machine and
>> the
>> domain is
>> working properly.
>>
>> If you don't have the support tools installed, install them from your
>> server
>> install disk.
>> d:\support\tools\setup.exe
>>
>> nltest /sc_verify:YourDomainName
>>
>> This should verify and if broken reset the trust between the client and
>> the
>> domain.
>>
>> /sc_reset
>>
>> --
>> Paul Bergson
>> MVP - Directory Services
>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>>
>> http://www.pbbergs.com
>>
>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> "v2win" <v2win@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8D4D18AE-75FB-476A-86FD-BC452E386935@microsoft.com...
>> > Sorry, that should have read:
>> >
>> > Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same
>> > thing
>> > as
>> > resetting the machine's password?
>> >
>> > Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a
>> > domain
>> > controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other DCs).
>> >
>> > The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools
>> > description
>> > (via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.
>> >
>> > However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset the
>> > secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the
>> > "secure
>> > channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in
>> > AD?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > J
>> > --
>> > V2
>> >
>> >
>> > "v2win" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same
>> >> thing
>> >> as
>> >> resetting the secure channel?
>> >>
>> >> Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a
>> >> domain
>> >> controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other
>> >> DCs).
>> >>
>> >> The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools
>> >> description
>> >> (via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.
>> >>
>> >> However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset
>> >> the
>> >> secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the
>> >> "secure
>> >> channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in
>> >> AD?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> J

>>
>>
>>



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Old 06-26-2008, 05:48 PM
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Re: Resetting machine account password

Thank you, Paul.
--
V2


"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Yes it is more or less the same. To establish a secure channel the machine
> has to logon to the domain.
>
> --
> Paul Bergson
> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>
> http://www.pbbergs.com
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "v2win" <v2win@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> newsD510602-A838-4C42-906E-5705E3C95CBF@microsoft.com...
> > Paul,
> >
> > Thanks, but I am trying to learn if resetting the secure channel is the
> > same
> > thing as resetting the machine password. BTW, <netdom verify machinename>
> > will also verify the secure channel and indicate with which DC the channel
> > exists.
> > --
> > V2
> >
> >
> > "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:
> >
> >> Check out nltest, I think that is what you are looking for.
> >>
> >> If you want to check to see if the secure channel between a machine and
> >> the
> >> domain is
> >> working properly.
> >>
> >> If you don't have the support tools installed, install them from your
> >> server
> >> install disk.
> >> d:\support\tools\setup.exe
> >>
> >> nltest /sc_verify:YourDomainName
> >>
> >> This should verify and if broken reset the trust between the client and
> >> the
> >> domain.
> >>
> >> /sc_reset
> >>
> >> --
> >> Paul Bergson
> >> MVP - Directory Services
> >> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> >> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
> >>
> >> http://www.pbbergs.com
> >>
> >> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >>
> >> "v2win" <v2win@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8D4D18AE-75FB-476A-86FD-BC452E386935@microsoft.com...
> >> > Sorry, that should have read:
> >> >
> >> > Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same
> >> > thing
> >> > as
> >> > resetting the machine's password?
> >> >
> >> > Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a
> >> > domain
> >> > controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other DCs).
> >> >
> >> > The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools
> >> > description
> >> > (via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.
> >> >
> >> > However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset the
> >> > secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the
> >> > "secure
> >> > channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in
> >> > AD?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > J
> >> > --
> >> > V2
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "v2win" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Is resetting the secure channel on a domain member machine the same
> >> >> thing
> >> >> as
> >> >> resetting the secure channel?
> >> >>
> >> >> Using the <Netdom resetpwd> command, one can reset the password on a
> >> >> domain
> >> >> controller (which I believe will trigger replication to the other
> >> >> DCs).
> >> >>
> >> >> The <Netdom resetpwd> command is specific to DCs, per the tools
> >> >> description
> >> >> (via <Netdom resetpwd /?>.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, there is the <Netdom reset> command which is used to reset
> >> >> the
> >> >> secure channel between a member machine and a specified DC - is the
> >> >> "secure
> >> >> channel" reset actually just resetting the local machine's password in
> >> >> AD?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> J
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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