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Old 04-03-2008, 11:07 PM
RxK
 
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DVI no longer default monitor signal ...

Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for several weeks
now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home ed.), from boot-up I
briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the monitor sensing a VGA signal).
Then after Windows gets almost fully up and running, I would get a brief,
(from the monitor), "DVI" label, obviously indicating that the monitor
eventually sensed a DVI signal and the thing has switched to DVI.

....so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the non "pin
sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on the
underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles it into DVI, without
having to dig into the monitor menus.

....are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and Nvidia
6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI like it used to
? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous), Nvidia application software,
and can't see anything obvious. ...am not tempted to fiddle with monitor 1
of 2 and that stuff, ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off and not in
use.

TIA

regards, Richard


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Old 04-03-2008, 11:19 PM
Carey Frisch [MVP]
 
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Re: DVI no longer default monitor signal ...

What is the make and model number of your monitor?

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance

---------------------------------------------------------------

"RxK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OpAJ0edlIHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for several weeks
now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home ed.), from boot-up I
briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the monitor sensing a VGA signal).
Then after Windows gets almost fully up and running, I would get a brief,
(from the monitor), "DVI" label, obviously indicating that the monitor
eventually sensed a DVI signal and the thing has switched to DVI.

....so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the non "pin
sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on the
underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles it into DVI, without
having to dig into the monitor menus.

....are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and Nvidia
6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI like it used to
? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous), Nvidia application software,
and can't see anything obvious. ...am not tempted to fiddle with monitor 1
of 2 and that stuff, ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off and not in
use.

TIA

regards, Richard


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Old 04-03-2008, 11:23 PM
RxK
 
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Re: DVI no longer default monitor signal ...

Tentatively explored the right-click menus on the Nvidia system tray icon,
and "Nvidia Display Settings" is set to [ Clone 19" (1 of 2) + 19" (2 of
2) ]
....I think along time ago I tried to set it to "Single Display" and ended up
....up the creek !

regards, Richard


"RxK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OpAJ0edlIHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for several
> weeks now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home ed.), from
> boot-up I briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the monitor sensing a
> VGA signal). Then after Windows gets almost fully up and running, I would
> get a brief, (from the monitor), "DVI" label, obviously indicating that
> the monitor eventually sensed a DVI signal and the thing has switched to
> DVI.
>
> ...so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the non "pin
> sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on the
> underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles it into DVI, without
> having to dig into the monitor menus.
>
> ...are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and Nvidia
> 6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI like it used
> to ? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous), Nvidia application
> software, and can't see anything obvious. ...am not tempted to fiddle with
> monitor 1 of 2 and that stuff, ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off
> and not in use.
>
> TIA
>
> regards, Richard
>



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Old 04-03-2008, 11:26 PM
Shenan Stanley
 
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Re: DVI no longer default monitor signal ...

RxK wrote:
> Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for
> several weeks now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home
> ed.), from boot-up I briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the
> monitor sensing a VGA signal). Then after Windows gets almost fully
> up and running, I would get a brief, (from the monitor), "DVI"
> label, obviously indicating that the monitor eventually sensed a
> DVI signal and the thing has switched to DVI.
> ...so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the
> non "pin sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on
> the underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles
> it into DVI, without having to dig into the monitor menus.
>
> ...are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and
> Nvidia 6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI
> like it used to ? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous),
> Nvidia application software, and can't see anything obvious. ...am
> not tempted to fiddle with monitor 1 of 2 and that stuff,
> ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off and not in use.



Your *monitor* should be sensing the signal coming into it. Unless you have
both a VGA cable and a DVI cable coming from your computer to the same
monitor - I am unsure what you think the problem is...

In other words - if you are connected with a DVI cable to your monitor - you
aren't getting a picture that is VGA through that cable, AFAIK.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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Old 04-03-2008, 11:31 PM
RxK
 
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Re: DVI no longer default monitor signal ...

...oooh ! ...just went into Device Manager | Monitors ...where's me *inf
gone ...if there ever was one ? !!
....there's two Default Monitors, and two Plug & Play monitors in there.
....it's a DGM L-1931 ..Digimate ?

regards, Richard


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> wrote in message
news:4EF19C3B-5A27-499F-BC42-1881D950F106@microsoft.com...
> What is the make and model number of your monitor?
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience -
> Windows System & Performance
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "RxK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OpAJ0edlIHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for several
> weeks
> now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home ed.), from boot-up I
> briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the monitor sensing a VGA
> signal).
> Then after Windows gets almost fully up and running, I would get a brief,
> (from the monitor), "DVI" label, obviously indicating that the monitor
> eventually sensed a DVI signal and the thing has switched to DVI.
>
> ...so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the non "pin
> sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on the
> underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles it into DVI, without
> having to dig into the monitor menus.
>
> ...are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and Nvidia
> 6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI like it used
> to
> ? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous), Nvidia application
> software,
> and can't see anything obvious. ...am not tempted to fiddle with monitor 1
> of 2 and that stuff, ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off and not
> in
> use.
>
> TIA
>
> regards, Richard
>
>



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Old 04-03-2008, 11:35 PM
RxK
 
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Re: DVI no longer default monitor signal ...

thanks, ...I can have toggle to either, ...it always used to, towards end of
boot up, go to DVI.
....I suppose I could just try disconnecting VGA lead.
I suspect it's something to do with Nvidia 162.18 Forceware and the Clone /
1 of 2 / 2 of 2 / Single Monitors and that stuff.

regards, Richard


"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O07p2mdlIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> RxK wrote:
>> Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for
>> several weeks now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home
>> ed.), from boot-up I briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the
>> monitor sensing a VGA signal). Then after Windows gets almost fully
>> up and running, I would get a brief, (from the monitor), "DVI"
>> label, obviously indicating that the monitor eventually sensed a
>> DVI signal and the thing has switched to DVI.
>> ...so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the
>> non "pin sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on
>> the underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles
>> it into DVI, without having to dig into the monitor menus.
>>
>> ...are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and
>> Nvidia 6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI
>> like it used to ? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous),
>> Nvidia application software, and can't see anything obvious. ...am
>> not tempted to fiddle with monitor 1 of 2 and that stuff,
>> ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off and not in use.

>
>
> Your *monitor* should be sensing the signal coming into it. Unless you
> have both a VGA cable and a DVI cable coming from your computer to the
> same monitor - I am unsure what you think the problem is...
>
> In other words - if you are connected with a DVI cable to your monitor -
> you aren't getting a picture that is VGA through that cable, AFAIK.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>



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Old 04-04-2008, 12:24 AM
RxK
 
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Re: DVI no longer default monitor signal ...

Thanks all, ...found it !

Set Clone to [19" (2 of 2) + (1 of 2)]
instead of [19" (1 of 2) + (2 of 2)]
....and it goes to DVI after boot up.
I'm wondering how it changed itself !?
....guessing that 1 of 1 is RGB monitor input, and 2 of 2 is DVI monitor
input ?!

....sorry for posting what may appear a trivial problem but, ages ago I
changed something in Nvidia settings and ended up with desktop going to
monitor 2, and had to fiddle with plugs and adapters, to get picture back !

regards, Richard


"RxK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OpAJ0edlIHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for several
> weeks now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home ed.), from
> boot-up I briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the monitor sensing a
> VGA signal). Then after Windows gets almost fully up and running, I would
> get a brief, (from the monitor), "DVI" label, obviously indicating that
> the monitor eventually sensed a DVI signal and the thing has switched to
> DVI.
>
> ...so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the non "pin
> sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on the
> underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles it into DVI, without
> having to dig into the monitor menus.
>
> ...are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and Nvidia
> 6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI like it used
> to ? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous), Nvidia application
> software, and can't see anything obvious. ...am not tempted to fiddle with
> monitor 1 of 2 and that stuff, ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off
> and not in use.
>
> TIA
>
> regards, Richard
>



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Old 04-04-2008, 04:17 AM
Lil' Dave
 
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Re: DVI no longer default monitor signal ...



"RxK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OpAJ0edlIHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for several
> weeks now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home ed.), from
> boot-up I briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the monitor sensing a
> VGA signal). Then after Windows gets almost fully up and running, I would
> get a brief, (from the monitor), "DVI" label, obviously indicating that
> the monitor eventually sensed a DVI signal and the thing has switched to
> DVI.
>
> ...so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the non "pin
> sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on the
> underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles it into DVI, without
> having to dig into the monitor menus.
>
> ...are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and Nvidia
> 6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI like it used
> to ? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous), Nvidia application
> software, and can't see anything obvious. ...am not tempted to fiddle with
> monitor 1 of 2 and that stuff, ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off
> and not in use.
>
> TIA
>
> regards, Richard
>


Same chipset. ATI card with dual outputs. Runs fine all day in analog.
Using DVI noticed some discrepancies. When I use restart from windows, lose
all video. Never happens from cold boot. If during the reboot, I change
cable use from DVI to analog, I see its using analog instead. When booting
cold, found the DVI does not display some of my boot video from my Promise
ide card or my scsi adapter. Using a 20.5" Optiquest (Viewsonic) Q20WB
monitor.

I personally am unable to determine any better picture from either analog or
DVI. Using 1280 by 980.
--
Dave

How about a tax to support any military conflict/police action over 3 months
old?

An actual war, we can do what's been done in the past.


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Old 04-04-2008, 08:02 AM
M.I.5¾
 
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Re: DVI no longer default monitor signal ...


"RxK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O5$6%23rdlIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> thanks, ...I can have toggle to either, ...it always used to, towards end
> of boot up, go to DVI.
> ...I suppose I could just try disconnecting VGA lead.


Good idea. Why have you got both leads connected in the first place?

> I suspect it's something to do with Nvidia 162.18 Forceware and the Clone
> / 1 of 2 / 2 of 2 / Single Monitors and that stuff.
>
> regards, Richard
>
>
> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O07p2mdlIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> RxK wrote:
>>> Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for
>>> several weeks now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home
>>> ed.), from boot-up I briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the
>>> monitor sensing a VGA signal). Then after Windows gets almost fully
>>> up and running, I would get a brief, (from the monitor), "DVI"
>>> label, obviously indicating that the monitor eventually sensed a
>>> DVI signal and the thing has switched to DVI.
>>> ...so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the
>>> non "pin sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on
>>> the underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles
>>> it into DVI, without having to dig into the monitor menus.
>>>
>>> ...are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and
>>> Nvidia 6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI
>>> like it used to ? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous),
>>> Nvidia application software, and can't see anything obvious. ...am
>>> not tempted to fiddle with monitor 1 of 2 and that stuff,
>>> ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off and not in use.

>>
>>
>> Your *monitor* should be sensing the signal coming into it. Unless you
>> have both a VGA cable and a DVI cable coming from your computer to the
>> same monitor - I am unsure what you think the problem is...
>>
>> In other words - if you are connected with a DVI cable to your monitor -
>> you aren't getting a picture that is VGA through that cable, AFAIK.
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>

>
>



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Old 04-04-2008, 04:16 PM
RxK
 
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Re: DVI no longer default monitor signal ...

Good question, .....they just sort of ended up that way i.e. both connected.
Anyhow, as I posted earlier, the answer was to do with the "nView Display
Settings" on the right-click Nvidia menu in system tray, which had changed
from (2 of 2) + (1 of 2) to (1 of 2) + (2 of 2), ...and I though that had
solved it, just prodded the + button on the underside of the monitor and
it switched to DVI ...i.e top left monitor "DVI" label briefly appeared,
....so It now looks like that wasn'r it !
....oh well, I may find the answer one day.

regards, Richard


"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
news:47f5ce7b$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>
> "RxK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O5$6%23rdlIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> thanks, ...I can have toggle to either, ...it always used to, towards end
>> of boot up, go to DVI.
>> ...I suppose I could just try disconnecting VGA lead.

>
> Good idea. Why have you got both leads connected in the first place?
>
>> I suspect it's something to do with Nvidia 162.18 Forceware and the Clone
>> / 1 of 2 / 2 of 2 / Single Monitors and that stuff.
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>>
>> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O07p2mdlIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> RxK wrote:
>>>> Monitor always used to switch to "DVI" after boot-up but, for
>>>> several weeks now, (even before recently repair installing XP Home
>>>> ed.), from boot-up I briefly see a "VGA" label top left, (from the
>>>> monitor sensing a VGA signal). Then after Windows gets almost fully
>>>> up and running, I would get a brief, (from the monitor), "DVI"
>>>> label, obviously indicating that the monitor eventually sensed a
>>>> DVI signal and the thing has switched to DVI.
>>>> ...so nowadays, after a while into a Windows session I notice the
>>>> non "pin sharp" characters on screen and have to press the + button on
>>>> the underside of the monitor, which I discovered toggles
>>>> it into DVI, without having to dig into the monitor menus.
>>>>
>>>> ...are ideas how to make this old Intel 865PE/D935/1gb pc3200 - and
>>>> Nvidia 6200 AGP 8x (forceware 162.18 atm), go automatically to DVI
>>>> like it used to ? I've waded through the, (nowadays hideous),
>>>> Nvidia application software, and can't see anything obvious. ...am
>>>> not tempted to fiddle with monitor 1 of 2 and that stuff,
>>>> ..."Active Desktop" rubbish is switched off and not in use.
>>>
>>>
>>> Your *monitor* should be sensing the signal coming into it. Unless you
>>> have both a VGA cable and a DVI cable coming from your computer to the
>>> same monitor - I am unsure what you think the problem is...
>>>
>>> In other words - if you are connected with a DVI cable to your monitor -
>>> you aren't getting a picture that is VGA through that cable, AFAIK.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shenan Stanley
>>> MS-MVP
>>> --
>>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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