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Old 07-24-2008, 03:54 AM
RickRoo
 
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Site Search issues with Spry Widgets

Currently evaluating search tools to work with Spry accordion, tabbed panels
and so on. Apparently NONE of them do. This is a big problem. Our site uses
mostly Dreamweaver spry widgets.
I have tested the very highly rated zoom Search from WrenSoft and also expect
problems with Google Search and Atomz (based on web research I have done).
If one searches for a word residing in one of the spry tabbed
panels,accordians (there could be many layers on a single page of course), site
search engines correctly take you to the page but naturally does not open the
correct tabbed panel (Zoom Search doesn't understand DW code of course). Just
presents you with the default panel. User would have to dig through all panels
on that page to find the text. Our users need these nice interfaces. This is
reality. Also some of the Java script in Wrensoft that highlights search words
conflicts with existing Java script within Dreamweaver. I've worked around some
of it but the core issue is the landing on the page and opening the correct
tab. The question is can anyone suggest a search engine tool that will work
with Dreamweaver Spry widgets or suggest something else. This is a huge
disincentive to use Spry. Perhaps build pages without Spry to specifically go
to after search? Sound like a lot of work.

Thanks
Richard

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Old 07-24-2008, 02:13 PM
SnakEyez02
 
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Re: Site Search issues with Spry Widgets

Ok with the Spry situation, currently the product is technically a beta so
below you are going to find a couple of links.

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/spry/home.html - This is the official Spry
homepage. There is an updater here. Inside the package that you download you
will find samples and an Extension for DW. Run the extension and then under
the Sites menu in DW you will see an option to update Spry. Then keep an eye
on this site every few months for updates.

http://www.adobe.com/go/labs_spry_pr1_forum - This is the link to the official
Spry forums. I think I remember reading that currently Spry cannot be indexed
but that this is planned for one of the upcoming releases. Adobe developers do
check that forum so I would recommend posting over there for further
developments.


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Old 07-24-2008, 11:25 PM
RickRoo
 
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Re: Site Search issues with Spry Widgets

Thanks!!
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:21 PM
Al Sparber - PVII
 
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Re: Site Search issues with Spry Widgets

"SnakEyez02" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:g6a2mm$d2s$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Ok with the Spry situation, currently the product is technically a beta


Really :-)

Adobe does not agree with that.


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Old 07-25-2008, 08:25 PM
Al Sparber - PVII
 
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Re: Site Search issues with Spry Widgets

What you want to do is fairly close to impossible... and it's neither a Spry
deficiency (it has enough of its own) nor a deficiency in any other type of
widget that presents data in an interface of hidden/shown panels.

As to your other issue (script conflicts), we are big fans of Wrensoft (we
use Zoomsearch) and the problem is with Wrensoft's script, not anyone
else's.


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http://www.projectseven.com/go/Elevators


"RickRoo" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Currently evaluating search tools to work with Spry accordion, tabbed
> panels
> and so on. Apparently NONE of them do. This is a big problem. Our site
> uses
> mostly Dreamweaver spry widgets.
> I have tested the very highly rated zoom Search from WrenSoft and also
> expect
> problems with Google Search and Atomz (based on web research I have done).
> If one searches for a word residing in one of the spry tabbed
> panels,accordians (there could be many layers on a single page of course),
> site
> search engines correctly take you to the page but naturally does not open
> the
> correct tabbed panel (Zoom Search doesn't understand DW code of course).
> Just
> presents you with the default panel. User would have to dig through all
> panels
> on that page to find the text. Our users need these nice interfaces. This
> is
> reality. Also some of the Java script in Wrensoft that highlights search
> words
> conflicts with existing Java script within Dreamweaver. I've worked around
> some
> of it but the core issue is the landing on the page and opening the
> correct
> tab. The question is can anyone suggest a search engine tool that will
> work
> with Dreamweaver Spry widgets or suggest something else. This is a huge
> disincentive to use Spry. Perhaps build pages without Spry to specifically
> go
> to after search? Sound like a lot of work.
>
> Thanks
> Richard
>


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Old 07-25-2008, 09:43 PM
SnakEyez02
 
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Re: Site Search issues with Spry Widgets

Actually Al just looking at the code for their menubar I notice the following:


http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/s...rHorizontal.cs
s

/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */

Also if it wasn't a beta I would really expect the Spry to update via the
Adobe Updater but it doesn't which I think is a major disadvantage to it right
now.

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Old 07-25-2008, 09:56 PM
Al Sparber - PVII
 
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Re: Site Search issues with Spry Widgets

"SnakEyez02" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:g6dheu$ard$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Actually Al just looking at the code for their menubar I notice the
> following:
>
>
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/s...rHorizontal.cs
> s
>
> /* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
>
> Also if it wasn't a beta I would really expect the Spry to update via the
> Adobe Updater but it doesn't which I think is a major disadvantage to it
> right
> now.


I know. The problem is that in response to my criticizing Spry widgets once
(and in private with Adobe employees) I stated that I could not write a
formal review or analysis because Spry has been in beta for over 2 years
;-). The Adobe employee's response was:

>>> If you'd like to review it, please do (you noted you could not due to
>>> it's
>>> state of completion). 1.6 is a complete release from our perspective -
>>> and...


Frankly, I don't know what to think or whom to believe at Adobe anymore.


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Fully Automated Menu Systems | Galleries | Widgets
http://www.projectseven.com/go/Elevators


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