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Old 08-13-2008, 11:22 AM
computerdream
 
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drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

Hi,

I hope someone has an idea for the following question.

(Tried to find something on google about it, but no luck, might also not be
naming it correctly?)

Would like to know how to create buttons with drop down functions.
What I mean is one has a word, used as a button/link and once the cursor is
placed on it, a drop down menu with further buttons/links gets displayed. One
can then click onto one of those drop-down links, to get to that page.

I am using Dreamweaver 4, Windows XP, Internet Explorer.

Thanks. :confused;

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Old 08-13-2008, 11:34 AM
Malcolm _
 
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Re: drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:22:26 +0000 (UTC), "computerdream"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
> I hope someone has an idea for the following question.
>
> (Tried to find something on google about it, but no luck, might also not be
>naming it correctly?)
>
> Would like to know how to create buttons with drop down functions.
> What I mean is one has a word, used as a button/link and once the cursor is
>placed on it, a drop down menu with further buttons/links gets displayed. One
>can then click onto one of those drop-down links, to get to that page.
>
> I am using Dreamweaver 4, Windows XP, Internet Explorer.
>
> Thanks. :confused;


Maybe one of these would help:

http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/

http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/fly_drop.html


http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/pro_drop3.html

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Old 08-13-2008, 04:06 PM
computerdream
 
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Re: drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

Thanks for the links Malcom_.

Had a look, but was hoping for something free of charge, either in Dreamweaver or as Freeware, or even a HTML code for it.
Anyone else any ideas?

Many thanks.
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Old 08-13-2008, 04:21 PM
Malcolm _
 
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Re: drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:06:31 +0000 (UTC), "computerdream"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the links Malcom_.
>
>Had a look, but was hoping for something free of charge, either in Dreamweaver or as Freeware, or even a HTML code for it.
>Anyone else any ideas?
>
>Many thanks.



many of those ARE free - or if its a commercial site a donation / fee.
surely worth that ?
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:02 PM
Al Sparber - PVII
 
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Re: drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

"Malcolm _" <malcom@mon.org> wrote in message
news:52e5a4pn8dbtvc9q72phi4a9faq601vvpq@4ax.com...
>> I hope someone has an idea for the following question.
>>
>> (Tried to find something on google about it, but no luck, might also not
>> be
>>naming it correctly?)
>>
>> Would like to know how to create buttons with drop down functions.
>> What I mean is one has a word, used as a button/link and once the cursor
>> is
>>placed on it, a drop down menu with further buttons/links gets displayed.
>>One
>>can then click onto one of those drop-down links, to get to that page.
>>
>> I am using Dreamweaver 4, Windows XP, Internet Explorer.
>>
>> Thanks. :confused;

>
> Maybe one of these would help:
>
> http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/
>
> http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/fly_drop.html
>
>
> http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/pro_drop3.html



CSSplay menus do not work correctly in IE if there is more than one submenu
level, which, in and of itself, presents severe usability problems. In many
cases, CSS menus require JavaScript to become functionally usable.

--
Al Sparber - PVII
http://www.projectseven.com
Fully Automated Menu Systems | Galleries | Widgets
http://www.projectseven.com/go/Elevators


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Old 08-13-2008, 05:46 PM
Malcolm _
 
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Re: drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:02:52 -0400, "Al Sparber - PVII"
<pviiteam@projectSPAseven.com> wrote:


>CSSplay menus do not work correctly in IE if there is more than one submenu
>level, which, in and of itself, presents severe usability problems. In many
>cases, CSS menus require JavaScript to become functionally usable.



Tell us more - which of the many offerings on that site are wrong

several I have tried work OK in IE6 & &

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Old 08-13-2008, 06:10 PM
Al Sparber - PVII
 
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Re: drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

"Malcolm _" <malcom@mon.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:02:52 -0400, "Al Sparber - PVII"
> <pviiteam@projectSPAseven.com> wrote:
>
>
>>CSSplay menus do not work correctly in IE if there is more than one
>>submenu
>>level, which, in and of itself, presents severe usability problems. In
>>many
>>cases, CSS menus require JavaScript to become functionally usable.

>
>
> Tell us more - which of the many offerings on that site are wrong
>
> several I have tried work OK in IE6 & &


Hi Malcolm,

Menus that are not properly augmented with script present the following
problems:

The CSS hover pseudo class is not controllable and therefore not able to be
fine-tuned with careful timing mechanisms. Actions are instantaneous and
stark. Go off the <a> tag and the menu snaps shut in a millisecond. This is
simply annoying in a single sub-menu level implementation, but where
multiple sub-levels are deployed, necessitating the user to traverse between
a link on a drop-down level to one diagonally offset on a child flyout, the
route taken must not hit any other links on the way or the menu will snap
shut. Scripted menus get around this by programming carefully orchestrated
timers to prevent premature closure for users taking a "natural path" to
their destination link. That said, some scripts do this better than others,
but I digress...

The CSS play menu you linked to above
(http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/pro_drop3.html) works very nicely if you go
slow, savoring its pure CSS in rapt wonder. But if you stand down and
attempt to operate it as your Aunt Martha or friend Harry might, you will be
hard-pressed to go from Products > Lenses to Zoom without the thing snapping
shut.

Work the menu at a fast clip and you will notice arbitrary closure in IE7.

I would not use such a menu on a site I built.


--
Al Sparber - PVII
http://www.projectseven.com
Fully Automated Menu Systems | Galleries | Widgets
http://www.projectseven.com/go/Elevators


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Old 08-13-2008, 06:44 PM
Malcolm _
 
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Re: drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:10:50 -0400, "Al Sparber - PVII"
<pviiteam@projectSPAseven.com> wrote:
>
>Menus that are not properly augmented with script present the following
>problems:
>
>The CSS hover pseudo class is not controllable and therefore not able to be
>fine-tuned with careful timing mechanisms. Actions are instantaneous and
>stark.
>
>The CSS play menu you linked to above
>(http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/pro_drop3.html) works very nicely if you go
>slow, savoring its pure CSS in rapt wonder. But if you stand down and
>attempt to operate it as your Aunt Martha or friend Harry might, you will be
>hard-pressed to go from Products > Lenses to Zoom without the thing snapping
>shut.
>
>Work the menu at a fast clip and you will notice arbitrary closure in IE7.
>
>I would not use such a menu on a site I built.


OK fair enough - you are skilled enough to write your own.

I do understand exactly what you mean about the cursor going off the
menu blocks - I've seen exactly this same behaviour on many other
sites.

But I tried it again - I went from Contacts, sales, European, British,
Bristol , Eastfield
I did it many times at different speeds - maybe tried it ten times;
on IE6 and FF3.

Out of those ten times - I slipped off and lost the menu once, and
succeeded 9 times.


So maybe your paid for VII menu systems might work 99.9% of the time -
that's commendable - but it disingenuous of you to come on here and
knock a site that offers many free solutions to a common problem, and
makes no charge for non-commercial use.

I know many people here say that your products are very good, if not
one of the best - that's fine - but it looks bad if all you can do is
knock your competitors or use this forum to promote your products.
Many many people, such as Murray, Alan, Micha, Patsy etc etc etc offer
their time and support free of charge and not blatantly promote any
products.


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Old 08-13-2008, 06:53 PM
Murray *ACE*
 
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Re: drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

Bear in mind that PVII also offers free menus, as well as free tutorials on
how to build them.

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"Malcolm _" <malcom@mon.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:10:50 -0400, "Al Sparber - PVII"
> <pviiteam@projectSPAseven.com> wrote:
>>
>>Menus that are not properly augmented with script present the following
>>problems:
>>
>>The CSS hover pseudo class is not controllable and therefore not able to
>>be
>>fine-tuned with careful timing mechanisms. Actions are instantaneous and
>>stark.
>>
>>The CSS play menu you linked to above
>>(http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/pro_drop3.html) works very nicely if you
>>go
>>slow, savoring its pure CSS in rapt wonder. But if you stand down and
>>attempt to operate it as your Aunt Martha or friend Harry might, you will
>>be
>>hard-pressed to go from Products > Lenses to Zoom without the thing
>>snapping
>>shut.
>>
>>Work the menu at a fast clip and you will notice arbitrary closure in IE7.
>>
>>I would not use such a menu on a site I built.

>
> OK fair enough - you are skilled enough to write your own.
>
> I do understand exactly what you mean about the cursor going off the
> menu blocks - I've seen exactly this same behaviour on many other
> sites.
>
> But I tried it again - I went from Contacts, sales, European, British,
> Bristol , Eastfield
> I did it many times at different speeds - maybe tried it ten times;
> on IE6 and FF3.
>
> Out of those ten times - I slipped off and lost the menu once, and
> succeeded 9 times.
>
>
> So maybe your paid for VII menu systems might work 99.9% of the time -
> that's commendable - but it disingenuous of you to come on here and
> knock a site that offers many free solutions to a common problem, and
> makes no charge for non-commercial use.
>
> I know many people here say that your products are very good, if not
> one of the best - that's fine - but it looks bad if all you can do is
> knock your competitors or use this forum to promote your products.
> Many many people, such as Murray, Alan, Micha, Patsy etc etc etc offer
> their time and support free of charge and not blatantly promote any
> products.
>
>
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>
> ~Malcolm~*...
> ~*


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Old 08-13-2008, 06:59 PM
Malcolm _
 
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Re: drop-down buttons in Dreamweaver 4

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:53:15 -0400, "Murray *ACE*"
<forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote:

>Bear in mind that PVII also offers free menus, as well as free tutorials on
>how to build them.



I know they do a few Murray, but their website is less clear than that
other - they are mixed in with the menus that cost bucks.
As a full time professional Murray - you can clearly afford them. Many
many people who use these forums can't justify spending the cost of
Dreamweaver over again on add ons.

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