Hi:

I received a new product announcement from Project Seven for their new
Curvitude layouts, which look very nice.

Although my past designs are set to fit an 800 px width, I see that PVII is
offering a 982 px layout as well. Is it now common to design a layout that
wide?

Thx, Ned

"Nedward" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:
>
> I received a new product announcement from Project Seven for their new
> Curvitude layouts, which look very nice.
>
> Although my past designs are set to fit an 800 px width, I see that PVII
> is
> offering a 982 px layout as well. Is it now common to design a layout
> that
> wide?

Yes.

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"Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Depends on your demographic. It would be trouble on an iPhone.
>
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> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Nedward" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
> > news:gbrfhv$dku$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> >> Hi:
> >>
> >> I received a new product announcement from Project Seven for their new
> >> Curvitude layouts, which look very nice.
> >>
> >> Although my past designs are set to fit an 800 px width, I see that
PVII
> >> is
> >> offering a 982 px layout as well. Is it now common to design a layout
> >> that
> >> wide?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
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>

Currently, on average, you have a 1 in 1000 chance of someone visiting your
site with an iPhone. The viewport is 800x600 or 600x800 if I recall correctly.

To answer the OP's question, yes, the days of 800x600 (for non-mobile devices)
are dying.

To preempt Micha's inevitable response, fluid width layouts are garbage.

>>fluid width layouts are garbage

Now you're being even more pedantic than Micha's sometimes accused of being.
This is rapidly becoming one of those "pot & kettle" scenarios. :-)
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"JoeyD1978" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Currently, on average, you have a 1 in 1000 chance of someone visiting
> your
> site with an iPhone. The viewport is 800x600 or 600x800 if I recall
> correctly.
>
> To answer the OP's question, yes, the days of 800x600 (for non-mobile
> devices)
> are dying.
>
> To preempt Micha's inevitable response, fluid width layouts are garbage.
>
>

Two thoughts in response, Murray:

(1) His question was "Is it now common to design a layout that wide?"

(2) You can scroll around a web page on an iPhone. That's kind of the point,
that you can access pages the same way they look on a computer.

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"Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Depends on your demographic. It would be trouble on an iPhone.
>
> --
> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> Adobe Community Expert
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
> ==================
> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> ==================
>
>
> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:gbrfnl$dvm$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>
>> "Nedward" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
>> news:gbrfhv$dku$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I received a new product announcement from Project Seven for their new
>>> Curvitude layouts, which look very nice.
>>>
>>> Although my past designs are set to fit an 800 px width, I see that PVII
>>> is
>>> offering a 982 px layout as well. Is it now common to design a layout
>>> that
>>> wide?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> --
>> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
>> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
>> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
>> --
>>
>

<To preempt Micha's inevitable response, fluid width layouts are garbage.>

LOL. While I understand the pre-emptive strike, I think you've tossed the
baby out with the bathwater. Liquid layouts (100% screen widths) can
produce very long strings of text that don't look good in all situations.
But a well-crafted, say 3-column, liquid layout (with min and max widths)
can look great and perform well on wide or narrow viewports. It all depends
on how much content you need to display on the page.


--Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
www.alt-web.com

"JoeyD1978" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Currently, on average, you have a 1 in 1000 chance of someone visiting
your
> site with an iPhone. The viewport is 800x600 or 600x800 if I recall
correctly.
>
> To answer the OP's question, yes, the days of 800x600 (for non-mobile
devices)
> are dying.
>
> To preempt Micha's inevitable response, fluid width layouts are garbage.
>
>

..oO(JoeyD1978)

> To preempt Micha's inevitable response, fluid width layouts are garbage.

I can resist.

Micha

Murray and/or Nancy, could you post some good examples of sites using that
technique?

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"Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Hear, hear. Agreed.
>
> --
> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> Adobe Community Expert
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
> ==================
> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> ==================
>
>
> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
> news:gbrmo7$mkc$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> <To preempt Micha's inevitable response, fluid width layouts are
>> garbage.>
>>
>> LOL. While I understand the pre-emptive strike, I think you've tossed
>> the
>> baby out with the bathwater. Liquid layouts (100% screen widths) can
>> produce very long strings of text that don't look good in all situations.
>> But a well-crafted, say 3-column, liquid layout (with min and max widths)
>> can look great and perform well on wide or narrow viewports. It all
>> depends
>> on how much content you need to display on the page.
>>
>>
>> --Nancy O.
>> Alt-Web Design & Publishing
>> www.alt-web.com
>>
>> "JoeyD1978" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
>> news:gbrih8$her$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>> Currently, on average, you have a 1 in 1000 chance of someone visiting
>> your
>>> site with an iPhone. The viewport is 800x600 or 600x800 if I recall
>> correctly.
>>>
>>> To answer the OP's question, yes, the days of 800x600 (for non-mobile
>> devices)
>>> are dying.
>>>
>>> To preempt Micha's inevitable response, fluid width layouts are
>>> garbage.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Murray *ACE* posted in macromedia.dreamweaver:

> Want to make your site look better on the iPhone with one line of
> HTML?
>
> It's easy—just add a <meta> tag that lets the iPhone know how wide
> to display the initial page. I added the following code to the
> <head> in my template yesterday:
>
> <meta name="viewport" content="width=808" />Every browser besides
> MobileSafari will ignore this information. But it does something
> very important on the iPhone: it optimizes the viewport for your
> content.

Now THAT's a handy bit of learnin' for me. I never would have thought
to look for something like that.

Thanks!


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