after sorting thru the last months messages, it seems i am the only
person who's FF3 won't restart? Can that be true?

i have to log off or re-start the computer... to get FF3 up and running
every single time its closed...


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sean bean wrote:
> after sorting thru the last months messages, it seems i am the only
> person who's FF3 won't restart? Can that be true?
>
> i have to log off or re-start the computer... to get FF3 up and running
> every single time its closed...
>
>
Have you tried making sure you have it shut down correctly? Try using
File/Exit to end the program, and if it refuses to restart, then go to
the task manager and force the program to end. This is vastly better
than rebooting.

Ron Hunter wrote:
> sean bean wrote:
>> after sorting thru the last months messages, it seems i am the only
>> person who's FF3 won't restart? Can that be true?
>>
>> i have to log off or re-start the computer... to get FF3 up and
>> running every single time its closed...
>>
>>
> Have you tried making sure you have it shut down correctly? Try using
> File/Exit to end the program, and if it refuses to restart, then go to
> the task manager and force the program to end. This is vastly better
> than rebooting.

shutting off the firefox.exe process in task manager does not help...
firefox will NOT restart until i've logged off/loggged back on...

shutting down correctly?

the upper left red x that has worked in all previous FF/Mozilla/Netscape
iterations is no longer correct?

sean

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sean bean wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>> sean bean wrote:
>>> after sorting thru the last months messages, it seems i am the only
>>> person who's FF3 won't restart? Can that be true?
>>>
>>> i have to log off or re-start the computer... to get FF3 up and
>>> running every single time its closed...
>>>
>>>
>> Have you tried making sure you have it shut down correctly? Try using
>> File/Exit to end the program, and if it refuses to restart, then go to
>> the task manager and force the program to end. This is vastly better
>> than rebooting.
>
> shutting off the firefox.exe process in task manager does not help...
> firefox will NOT restart until i've logged off/loggged back on...
>
> shutting down correctly?
>
> the upper left red x that has worked in all previous FF/Mozilla/Netscape
> iterations is no longer correct?
>
> sean
>

That was never a proper method of shutting down a program
It is the CLOSE window box

If the window is the ONLY process spawned by the program, then yes,
Windows will exit the program for you. Problem is, browsers, like
Firefox usually have several processes 'open' and therefore it isn't
exiting.

Use File-->Exit

sean bean wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>> sean bean wrote:
>>> after sorting thru the last months messages, it seems i am the only
>>> person who's FF3 won't restart? Can that be true?
>>>
>>> i have to log off or re-start the computer... to get FF3 up and
>>> running every single time its closed...
>>>
>>>
>> Have you tried making sure you have it shut down correctly? Try using
>> File/Exit to end the program, and if it refuses to restart, then go to
>> the task manager and force the program to end. This is vastly better
>> than rebooting.
>
> shutting off the firefox.exe process in task manager does not help...
> firefox will NOT restart until i've logged off/loggged back on...
>
> shutting down correctly?
>
> the upper left red x that has worked in all previous FF/Mozilla/Netscape
> iterations is no longer correct?
>
> sean
>
It closes the open window, which may not properly terminate all open
data streams, thus keeping the program active as far as the OS is
concerned, so it will not allow you to start another incidence of the
program.

>>
>> shutting down correctly?
>>
>> the upper left red x that has worked in all previous
>> FF/Mozilla/Netscape iterations is no longer correct?
>>
>> sean
>>
>
> That was never a proper method of shutting down a program
> It is the CLOSE window box
>
> If the window is the ONLY process spawned by the program, then yes,
> Windows will exit the program for you. Problem is, browsers, like
> Firefox usually have several processes 'open' and therefore it isn't
> exiting.
>
> Use File-->Exit

Does someone know why the shortcut Ctrl-Q is not implemented in FF ?
It's a standard in TB, OOo...
Maurice

Maurice wrote:
>>>
>>> shutting down correctly?
>>>
>>> the upper left red x that has worked in all previous
>>> FF/Mozilla/Netscape iterations is no longer correct?
>>>
>>> sean
>>>
>>
>> That was never a proper method of shutting down a program
>> It is the CLOSE window box
>>
>> If the window is the ONLY process spawned by the program, then yes,
>> Windows will exit the program for you. Problem is, browsers, like
>> Firefox usually have several processes 'open' and therefore it isn't
>> exiting.
>>
>> Use File-->Exit
>
> Does someone know why the shortcut Ctrl-Q is not implemented in FF ?
> It's a standard in TB, OOo...
> Maurice


well, command Q works on the Mac version
But then Command Q is the mac standard for quit and is listed beside the
quit command in the menu

Actually on the mac it is pretty clear what the close window command
(the x) does, it closes the window. But since the menu for the running
application is displayed at the top of the screen (not in the window)
when you close the window and the menu remains, it is quite obvious you
didn't quit/close/exit the program.

Windows doesn't mandate that Control Q is quit like Apple does

You can add an add-on to Firefox that gives you a 'Exit' icon in the
toolbar tho

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2218
Exit Button Firefox

"Maurice"
> Does someone know why the shortcut Ctrl-Q is not implemented in FF ?
> It's a standard in TB, OOo...

I guess if there is a reason it is because it is too easy to terminate
Firefox accidentally, and because it is close to Ctrl+W that closes
a tab (Ctrl+Shift+W closes window).

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
> Maurice wrote:
>>>>
>>>> shutting down correctly?
>>>>
>>>> the upper left red x that has worked in all previous
>>>> FF/Mozilla/Netscape iterations is no longer correct?
>>>>
>>>> sean
>>>>
>>>
>>> That was never a proper method of shutting down a program
>>> It is the CLOSE window box
>>>
>>> If the window is the ONLY process spawned by the program, then yes,
>>> Windows will exit the program for you. Problem is, browsers, like
>>> Firefox usually have several processes 'open' and therefore it isn't
>>> exiting.
>>>
>>> Use File-->Exit
>>
>> Does someone know why the shortcut Ctrl-Q is not implemented in FF ?
>> It's a standard in TB, OOo...
>> Maurice
>
>
> well, command Q works on the Mac version
> But then Command Q is the mac standard for quit and is listed beside the
> quit command in the menu
>
> Actually on the mac it is pretty clear what the close window command
> (the x) does, it closes the window. But since the menu for the running
> application is displayed at the top of the screen (not in the window)
> when you close the window and the menu remains, it is quite obvious you
> didn't quit/close/exit the program.
>
> Windows doesn't mandate that Control Q is quit like Apple does
>
> You can add an add-on to Firefox that gives you a 'Exit' icon in the
> toolbar tho
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2218
> Exit Button Firefox

I use Windows XP, and it's a pity to have to install an add-on just to
get a quick way to exit FF.
Thanks for the link.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:51:38 -0400
"David McRitchie" <nospam@nospam> wrote:

> "Maurice"
> > Does someone know why the shortcut Ctrl-Q is not implemented in FF ?
> > It's a standard in TB, OOo...
>
> I guess if there is a reason it is because it is too easy to
> terminate Firefox accidentally, and because it is close to Ctrl+W
> that closes a tab (Ctrl+Shift+W closes window).

That's strange. ctrl+q is the shortcut under GNU/Linux, even though
ctrl+w closes the tab.