THe left pane contains a number of (expandable) items: "Local Folders",
one or more subscribed news lists. Each of these items shows folders or
individual news groups.

How do I change the order of the newsgroups within a news server? The
folders within Email?

I tried "drag and drop" with no success.

John Kopf

* John O. Kopf wrote, On 7/16/2008 15:57:
> THe left pane contains a number of (expandable) items: "Local Folders",
> one or more subscribed news lists. Each of these items shows folders or
> individual news groups.
>
> How do I change the order of the newsgroups within a news server? The
> folders within Email?
>
> I tried "drag and drop" with no success.
>
> John Kopf

Close TB. Open WinExplorer and in your TB profile go to News. Then
open the particular xxx.rc and cut and paste as you wish.

Miles wrote:
> * John O. Kopf wrote, On 7/16/2008 15:57:
>> THe left pane contains a number of (expandable) items: "Local
>> Folders", one or more subscribed news lists. Each of these items
>> shows folders or individual news groups.
>>
>> How do I change the order of the newsgroups within a news server? The
>> folders within Email?
>>
>> I tried "drag and drop" with no success.
>>
>> John Kopf
>
> Close TB. Open WinExplorer and in your TB profile go to News. Then
> open the particular xxx.rc and cut and paste as you wish.

....but make a backup copy of it first.

* Miles wrote, On 7/16/2008 16:46:
> * John O. Kopf wrote, On 7/16/2008 15:57:
>> THe left pane contains a number of (expandable) items: "Local Folders",
>> one or more subscribed news lists. Each of these items shows folders or
>> individual news groups.
>>
>> How do I change the order of the newsgroups within a news server? The
>> folders within Email?
>>
>> I tried "drag and drop" with no success.
>>
>> John Kopf
>
> Close TB. Open WinExplorer and in your TB profile go to News. Then
> open the particular xxx.rc and cut and paste as you wish.

Forgot to mention mail -- The folders in what I call "kept mail" are in
alpha sequence. So if you want to deviate from that, you can add a
number or a character to place one in the 1st slot. And of course, if
you have several of them, simply add more numbers and they'll appear in
that progression.

Perhaps someone has come up with a better way, or an extension.
(folderpane tools may be of some assist, but not exactly as you are asking.)

John O. Kopf wrote:

> THe left pane contains a number of (expandable) items: "Local Folders",
> one or more subscribed news lists. Each of these items shows folders or
> individual news groups.
>
> How do I change the order of the newsgroups within a news server?

Edit its newsrc file and put them in whatever order you want. Search
for newsrc-<whatever the servername is>.

> The folders within Email?

The Folderpane Tools extension works nicely. There are limits to what
it will let you do, but it's better than nothing.

> I tried "drag and drop" with no success.
>
> John Kopf

--
Cheers, Bev (Happy Linux User #85683, Slackware 12.1)
================================================== =============
When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a thumb.

Miles wrote:
> * John O. Kopf wrote, On 7/16/2008 15:57:
>> THe left pane contains a number of (expandable) items: "Local
>> Folders", one or more subscribed news lists. Each of these items
>> shows folders or individual news groups.
>>
>> How do I change the order of the newsgroups within a news server? The
>> folders within Email?
>>
>> I tried "drag and drop" with no success.
>>
>> John Kopf
>
> Close TB. Open WinExplorer and in your TB profile go to News. Then
> open the particular xxx.rc and cut and paste as you wish.

I don't understand - I went to (I'm using Windows 2000):

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\zdbelsqu.default\News

....and found a folder for each of the news servers I use:
localhost
News
news.mozilla.org
news.newsguy.com
news.spamcop.net

The order they're displayed in is:
Local Folders
ATT News
Spamcop
news.mozilla.org
news
news.newsguy.com

........(that's the order they were added) I don't use news, and the
spamcop and mozilla servers each have a single NG associated with it.
I'd like the order to be:
Local Folders,
ATT News
news.newsguy.com
Spamcop
news.mozilla.org

....Now, none of these has a "newsrc" associated with it (and there are
several others - like "news" - that appear to correspond to "servers" I
no longer use - can I get rid of those?).

My question is, what defined the order that Thunderbird displays the
individual "servers", and the order of the newsgroups displayed within
each of those servers (the order appears to be defined within a *.rc"
file?).

John Kopf

* John O. Kopf wrote, On 7/16/2008 20:19:
> Miles wrote:
>> * John O. Kopf wrote, On 7/16/2008 15:57:
>>> THe left pane contains a number of (expandable) items: "Local
>>> Folders", one or more subscribed news lists. Each of these items
>>> shows folders or individual news groups.
>>>
>>> How do I change the order of the newsgroups within a news server? The
>>> folders within Email?
>>>
>>> I tried "drag and drop" with no success.
>>>
>>> John Kopf
>> Close TB. Open WinExplorer and in your TB profile go to News. Then
>> open the particular xxx.rc and cut and paste as you wish.
>
> I don't understand - I went to (I'm using Windows 2000):
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
> Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\zdbelsqu.default\News
>
> ....and found a folder for each of the news servers I use:
> localhost
> News
> news.mozilla.org
> news.newsguy.com
> news.spamcop.net
>
> The order they're displayed in is:
> Local Folders
> ATT News
> Spamcop
> news.mozilla.org
> news
> news.newsguy.com
>
> ........(that's the order they were added) I don't use news, and the
> spamcop and mozilla servers each have a single NG associated with it.
> I'd like the order to be:
> Local Folders,
> ATT News
> news.newsguy.com
> Spamcop
> news.mozilla.org
>
> ....Now, none of these has a "newsrc" associated with it (and there are
> several others - like "news" - that appear to correspond to "servers" I
> no longer use - can I get rid of those?).
>
> My question is, what defined the order that Thunderbird displays the
> individual "servers", and the order of the newsgroups displayed within
> each of those servers (the order appears to be defined within a *.rc"
> file?).
>
> John Kopf

The .rc file I was referring is to change the order of newsgroups within
a server -- such as those within news.mozilla.org. With .rc changes
you can put firefox first or thunderbird first or whatever. ?For
example, look for news.mozilla.org.rc.

Yes, you can delete the servers you no longer use.

The extension folderpane tools will allow you to change the displayed
order of newsgroup servers -- such as you could move news.mozilla.org up
above ATT.News (although I don't know what that is-- perhaps similar to
the one I use news.sf.sbcglobal.net which is one of ATT's server names
that lists multitudes of groups.)
Miles

The date and time was 7/16/2008 3:57 PM, and on a whim, John O. Kopf
pounded out on the keyboard:

> THe left pane contains a number of (expandable) items: "Local Folders",
> one or more subscribed news lists. Each of these items shows folders or
> individual news groups.
>
> How do I change the order of the newsgroups within a news server? The
> folders within Email?
>
> I tried "drag and drop" with no success.
>
> John Kopf

Hi John,

While others have explained editing the RC files to sort newsgroups, and
Folderpane Tools for email accounts, version 3 of TB will have drag &
drop for all of this.

--
Terry R.
Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.
Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

Miles wrote:
> * John O. Kopf wrote, On 7/16/2008 20:19:
>> SNIP
>>
>> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
>> Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\zdbelsqu.default\News
>>
>> ....and found a folder for each of the news servers I use:
>> localhost
>> News
>> news.mozilla.org
>> news.newsguy.com
>> news.spamcop.net
>>
>> The order they're displayed in is:
>> Local Folders
>> ATT News
>> Spamcop
>> news.mozilla.org
>> news
>> news.newsguy.com
>>
>> ........(that's the order they were added) I don't use news, and the
>> spamcop and mozilla servers each have a single NG associated with it.
>> I'd like the order to be:
>> Local Folders,
>> ATT News
>> news.newsguy.com
>> Spamcop
>> news.mozilla.org
>>
>> ....Now, none of these has a "newsrc" associated with it (and there
>> are several others - like "news" - that appear to correspond to
>> "servers" I no longer use - can I get rid of those?).
>>
>> My question is, what defined the order that Thunderbird displays the
>> individual "servers", and the order of the newsgroups displayed within
>> each of those servers (the order appears to be defined within a *.rc"
>> file?).
>>
>> John Kopf
>
> The .rc file I was referring is to change the order of newsgroups within
> a server -- such as those within news.mozilla.org. With .rc changes
> you can put firefox first or thunderbird first or whatever. ?For
> example, look for news.mozilla.org.rc.
>
> Yes, you can delete the servers you no longer use.
>
> The extension folderpane tools will allow you to change the displayed
> order of newsgroup servers -- such as you could move news.mozilla.org up
> above ATT.News (although I don't know what that is-- perhaps similar to
> the one I use news.sf.sbcglobal.net which is one of ATT's server names
> that lists multitudes of groups.)
> Miles
>

I'm using Thunderbird Version 2.0.0.14 (20080421) --

Where do I find "extension folderpane tools"?

John Kopf

On 7/17/2008 1:06 PM, John O. Kopf wrote:
> Miles wrote:
>> * John O. Kopf wrote, On 7/16/2008 20:19:
>>> SNIP
>>>
>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
>>> Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\zdbelsqu.default\News
>>>
>>> ....and found a folder for each of the news servers I use:
>>> localhost
>>> News
>>> news.mozilla.org
>>> news.newsguy.com
>>> news.spamcop.net
>>>
>>> The order they're displayed in is:
>>> Local Folders
>>> ATT News
>>> Spamcop
>>> news.mozilla.org
>>> news
>>> news.newsguy.com
>>>
>>> ........(that's the order they were added) I don't use news, and the
>>> spamcop and mozilla servers each have a single NG associated with it.
>>> I'd like the order to be:
>>> Local Folders,
>>> ATT News
>>> news.newsguy.com
>>> Spamcop
>>> news.mozilla.org
>>>
>>> ....Now, none of these has a "newsrc" associated with it (and there
>>> are several others - like "news" - that appear to correspond to
>>> "servers" I no longer use - can I get rid of those?).
>>>
>>> My question is, what defined the order that Thunderbird displays the
>>> individual "servers", and the order of the newsgroups displayed
>>> within each of those servers (the order appears to be defined within
>>> a *.rc" file?).
>>>
>>> John Kopf
>>
>> The .rc file I was referring is to change the order of newsgroups
>> within a server -- such as those within news.mozilla.org. With .rc
>> changes you can put firefox first or thunderbird first or whatever.
>> ?For example, look for news.mozilla.org.rc.
>>
>> Yes, you can delete the servers you no longer use.
>>
>> The extension folderpane tools will allow you to change the displayed
>> order of newsgroup servers -- such as you could move news.mozilla.org
>> up above ATT.News (although I don't know what that is-- perhaps
>> similar to the one I use news.sf.sbcglobal.net which is one of ATT's
>> server names that lists multitudes of groups.)
>> Miles
>>
>
> I'm using Thunderbird Version 2.0.0.14 (20080421) --
>
> Where do I find "extension folderpane tools"?
>
> John Kopf
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/258

Dave Pyles