Hi,

Does anyone know an extension for Thunderbird that will allow me to add
"X-No-Archive: Yes" to the header of usenet postings?

thanks,

~Dan

Date: 9/6/2008 5:17 AM, Author: DaN Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know an extension for Thunderbird that will allow me to add
> "X-No-Archive: Yes" to the header of usenet postings?
>
> thanks,
>
> ~Dan

You don't need an extension, the header can be added through about:config (or
editing/creating user.js, or editing prefs.js). On my posts I have an
"X-Machine:" header with my computer specifications. This is done with two
entries in prefs.js:

mail.identity.id6.headers
mail.identity.id6.header.machine

For No-Archive:

mail.identity.id[x].headers string no-archive
mail.identity.id[x].header.no-archive string X-No-Archive: Yes

The id6 in the first example is for the news.mozilla.org server on _my_ computer
and will likely be different on yours. You will need to add this pref for each
server that you want to include the header. You won't be able to change this on
a per-message basis.

Using [Tools]>[Options...]>[Advanced]>[Config Editor...] is probably the safest
way to make the changes. You will need to figure out which id[x] is associated
with which server before adding the pref. With Config Editor open, right-click
in an open area and select "New" then "String". Enter the pref and follow the
prompts.

It's possible that an extension adds a simpler user interface and that might be
preferable if you want to make lots of header additions. If such exists,
someone here may respond with the name and/or link.


--
G. R. Woodring

G. R. Woodring wrote:
> Date: 9/6/2008 5:17 AM, Author: DaN Wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know an extension for Thunderbird that will allow me to add
>> "X-No-Archive: Yes" to the header of usenet postings?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> ~Dan
>>
>
> You don't need an extension, the header can be added through about:config (or
> editing/creating user.js, or editing prefs.js). On my posts I have an
> "X-Machine:" header with my computer specifications. This is done with two
> entries in prefs.js:
>
> mail.identity.id6.headers
> mail.identity.id6.header.machine
>
> For No-Archive:
>
> mail.identity.id[x].headers string no-archive
> mail.identity.id[x].header.no-archive string X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> The id6 in the first example is for the news.mozilla.org server on _my_ computer
> and will likely be different on yours. You will need to add this pref for each
> server that you want to include the header. You won't be able to change this on
> a per-message basis.
>
You can also do this with the user preference mail.compose.other.header.
Here you can enter a comma separated list of headers that you want to be
able to add to your messages. After adding X-No-Archive to this list,
you can add this header line by selecting it in the headers box as a
type (instead of To, Cc, Bcc, Newsgroup...) and specify the value Yes/No
where you'd normally put the e-mail address.

This way you can specify the header on a message by message basis...
> Using [Tools]>[Options...]>[Advanced]>[Config Editor...] is probably the safest
> way to make the changes. You will need to figure out which id[x] is associated
> with which server before adding the pref. With Config Editor open, right-click
> in an open area and select "New" then "String". Enter the pref and follow the
> prompts.
>
> It's possible that an extension adds a simpler user interface and that might be
> preferable if you want to make lots of header additions. If such exists,
> someone here may respond with the name and/or link.
>

Onno

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:11:27 -0400, G. R. Woodring wrote:

> It's possible that an extension adds a simpler user interface and that might be
> preferable if you want to make lots of header additions. If such exists,
> someone here may respond with the name and/or link.

I think Mehny can do that:
<http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/customheaders.html>

--
s|b

Onno Ekker wrote:
> G. R. Woodring wrote:
>> Date: 9/6/2008 5:17 AM, Author: DaN Wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know an extension for Thunderbird that will allow me to add
>>> "X-No-Archive: Yes" to the header of usenet postings?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> ~Dan
>>>
>> You don't need an extension, the header can be added through about:config (or
>> editing/creating user.js, or editing prefs.js). On my posts I have an
>> "X-Machine:" header with my computer specifications. This is done with two
>> entries in prefs.js:
>>
>> mail.identity.id6.headers
>> mail.identity.id6.header.machine
>>
>> For No-Archive:
>>
>> mail.identity.id[x].headers string no-archive
>> mail.identity.id[x].header.no-archive string X-No-Archive: Yes
>>
>> The id6 in the first example is for the news.mozilla.org server on _my_ computer
>> and will likely be different on yours. You will need to add this pref for each
>> server that you want to include the header. You won't be able to change this on
>> a per-message basis.
>>
> You can also do this with the user preference mail.compose.other.header.
> Here you can enter a comma separated list of headers that you want to be
> able to add to your messages. After adding X-No-Archive to this list,
> you can add this header line by selecting it in the headers box as a
> type (instead of To, Cc, Bcc, Newsgroup...) and specify the value Yes/No
> where you'd normally put the e-mail address.
>
> This way you can specify the header on a message by message basis...
>> Using [Tools]>[Options...]>[Advanced]>[Config Editor...] is probably the safest
>> way to make the changes. You will need to figure out which id[x] is associated
>> with which server before adding the pref. With Config Editor open, right-click
>> in an open area and select "New" then "String". Enter the pref and follow the
>> prompts.
>>
>> It's possible that an extension adds a simpler user interface and that might be
>> preferable if you want to make lots of header additions. If such exists,
>> someone here may respond with the name and/or link.
>>
>
> Onno

Just checking to see if it works...

--
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in email?

..snork

Snorkelson MacBurp wrote:
> Onno Ekker wrote:
>> G. R. Woodring wrote:
>>> Date: 9/6/2008 5:17 AM, Author: DaN Wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know an extension for Thunderbird that will allow me to add
>>>> "X-No-Archive: Yes" to the header of usenet postings?
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> ~Dan
>>>>
>>> You don't need an extension, the header can be added through about:config (or
>>> editing/creating user.js, or editing prefs.js). On my posts I have an
>>> "X-Machine:" header with my computer specifications. This is done with two
>>> entries in prefs.js:
>>>
>>> mail.identity.id6.headers
>>> mail.identity.id6.header.machine
>>>
>>> For No-Archive:
>>>
>>> mail.identity.id[x].headers string no-archive
>>> mail.identity.id[x].header.no-archive string X-No-Archive: Yes
>>>
>>> The id6 in the first example is for the news.mozilla.org server on _my_ computer
>>> and will likely be different on yours. You will need to add this pref for each
>>> server that you want to include the header. You won't be able to change this on
>>> a per-message basis.
>>>
>> You can also do this with the user preference mail.compose.other.header.
>> Here you can enter a comma separated list of headers that you want to be
>> able to add to your messages. After adding X-No-Archive to this list,
>> you can add this header line by selecting it in the headers box as a
>> type (instead of To, Cc, Bcc, Newsgroup...) and specify the value Yes/No
>> where you'd normally put the e-mail address.
>>
>> This way you can specify the header on a message by message basis...
>>> Using [Tools]>[Options...]>[Advanced]>[Config Editor...] is probably the safest
>>> way to make the changes. You will need to figure out which id[x] is associated
>>> with which server before adding the pref. With Config Editor open, right-click
>>> in an open area and select "New" then "String". Enter the pref and follow the
>>> prompts.
>>>
>>> It's possible that an extension adds a simpler user interface and that might be
>>> preferable if you want to make lots of header additions. If such exists,
>>> someone here may respond with the name and/or link.
>>>
>> Onno
>
> Just checking to see if it works...
>
Oops! Left in the colon...


--
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in email?

..snork

Thanks, it works I tested it on Usenet, then checked with google groups
to see if the header is recognised.

I'm currently adding it to the rest of my accounts.

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:41:17 +0800, DaN wrote:

> Thanks, it works I tested it on Usenet, then checked with google groups
> to see if the header is recognised.
>
> I'm currently adding it to the rest of my accounts.

Why? Do you think it will stop anyone (besides Google Groups) from
archiving your postings?

Your posting made me check on my own settings and apparently I had XNA:y
switched on. I've switched it off since, in this newsgroup, I can't see
the purpose. By allowing my postings to be archived in Google Groups
they could be of use to someone looking for an answer through Google
Groups.

BTW did you notice I quoted your complete posting? Your XNA:y won't stop
GG from archiving my follow-up, your quotes included. (And there are
several archives out there who couldn't care less for the XNA:y
setting...)

--
s|b

On 07.09.2008 07:38, s|b wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:41:17 +0800, DaN wrote:
>
>> Thanks, it works I tested it on Usenet, then checked with google groups
>> to see if the header is recognised.
>>
>> I'm currently adding it to the rest of my accounts.
>
> Why? Do you think it will stop anyone (besides Google Groups) from
> archiving your postings?
>
> Your posting made me check on my own settings and apparently I had XNA:y
> switched on. I've switched it off since, in this newsgroup, I can't see
> the purpose. By allowing my postings to be archived in Google Groups
> they could be of use to someone looking for an answer through Google
> Groups.
>
> BTW did you notice I quoted your complete posting? Your XNA:y won't stop
> GG from archiving my follow-up, your quotes included. (And there are
> several archives out there who couldn't care less for the XNA:y
> setting...)
>

Interesting read: http://sweh.spuddy.org/noarchive.html

Also interesting is that this entire discussion has been fed to
FixUnix.com forums. :-)

--
Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion
www.ufaq.org
Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support

Jay Garcia on 9/7/2008 9:00 AM, keyboarded a reply:
> On 07.09.2008 07:38, s|b wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:41:17 +0800, DaN wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, it works I tested it on Usenet, then checked with google groups
>>> to see if the header is recognised.
>>>
>>> I'm currently adding it to the rest of my accounts.
>> Why? Do you think it will stop anyone (besides Google Groups) from
>> archiving your postings?
>>
>> Your posting made me check on my own settings and apparently I had XNA:y
>> switched on. I've switched it off since, in this newsgroup, I can't see
>> the purpose. By allowing my postings to be archived in Google Groups
>> they could be of use to someone looking for an answer through Google
>> Groups.
>>
>> BTW did you notice I quoted your complete posting? Your XNA:y won't stop
>> GG from archiving my follow-up, your quotes included. (And there are
>> several archives out there who couldn't care less for the XNA:y
>> setting...)
>>
>
> Interesting read: http://sweh.spuddy.org/noarchive.html
>
> Also interesting is that this entire discussion has been fed to
> FixUnix.com forums. :-)
>

Where in the devil did they get the postings? This server only feeds GG.
There have been past cases of news server admins "Pulling" from Mozilla in
the same manner as a newsreader client.

--
Ron K.
Who is General Failure, and why is he searching my HDD?
Kernel Restore reported Major Error used BSOD to msg the enemy!