When I attempt to upgrade my desktop machine from 2008.0 (free) to
2008.1 (free), I get this message:

"Installer have detected your installed Mandriva Linux system could not
safely be upgraded to Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring" (sic)

I know there are many who believe that one should always do a clean
install, but I'm curious why this message has been generated; what
specifically is it objecting to, do you think?

k

On Wednesday 25 June 2008 16:10, someone who identifies as *Keith* wrote
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>
> When I attempt to upgrade my desktop machine from 2008.0 (free) to
> 2008.1 (free), I get this message:
>
> "Installer have detected your installed Mandriva Linux system could not
> safely be upgraded to Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring" (sic)
>
> I know there are many who believe that one should always do a clean
> install, but I'm curious why this message has been generated; what
> specifically is it objecting to, do you think?

I have no idea, but you should be able to get a character mode log output on
one of the other virtual consoles. Press /Ctrl+Alt+F[1..4]/ to switch to
the other consoles and see whether you can ascertain the technicalities
behind its refusal to upgrade.

Hope this helps... ;-)

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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:10:04 -0400, Keith <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> When I attempt to upgrade my desktop machine from 2008.0 (free) to
> 2008.1 (free), I get this message:
> "Installer have detected your installed Mandriva Linux system could not
> safely be upgraded to Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring" (sic)

The only references google finds are from a couple of non-english blogs.

What does "rpm -qa | grep mandriva-release" show?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:10:04 -0400, Keith <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> When I attempt to upgrade my desktop machine from 2008.0 (free) to
>> 2008.1 (free), I get this message:
>> "Installer have detected your installed Mandriva Linux system could not
>> safely be upgraded to Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring" (sic)
>
> The only references google finds are from a couple of non-english blogs.
>
> What does "rpm -qa | grep mandriva-release" show?

It says:

mandriva-release-Free-2008.0-5mdv2008.0
mandriva-release-common-2008.0-5mdv2008.0

Any ideas?!

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:25:17 -0400, Keith <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> David W. Hodgins wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:10:04 -0400, Keith <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> When I attempt to upgrade my desktop machine from 2008.0 (free) to
>>> 2008.1 (free), I get this message:
>>> "Installer have detected your installed Mandriva Linux system could not
>>> safely be upgraded to Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring" (sic)

> It says:
> mandriva-release-Free-2008.0-5mdv2008.0
> mandriva-release-common-2008.0-5mdv2008.0

No. From what I could gather from the google translations, both of
the blogs were from people who had installed mandriva-release-Powerpack-xxx
on a Free system.

Using the escape key, to see details, and viewing the logs via alt+fn seems
like the best way to start debugging this.

I'll boot from an install dvd, and see if I can find the script/program
generating the message.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:25:17 -0400, Keith <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>>> When I attempt to upgrade my desktop machine from 2008.0 (free) to
>>> 2008.1 (free), I get this message:
>>> "Installer have detected your installed Mandriva Linux system could not
>>> safely be upgraded to Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring" (sic)

The tools available while booted from the install dvd are too limited. Here's
what I did and found, about the message.

I mounted the install dvd, and copied $dvdmmountpoint/i586/install/stage2/mdkinst.sqfs
to /tmp. In /tmp ran "unsquashfs mdkinst.sqfs", which extracted the files to
/tmp/squashfs-root. After cd to squashfs-root, used "grep -iIr safely *" to find
which script was generating the message, and found it ...
usr/lib/libDrakX/install/steps_interactive.pm:safely be upgraded to %s.

Looking at that script, there are a three conditions that can generate it, all
of which generate messages on the log, which you can see with alt+f3, during the
install. Things that can generate it ...
Upgrade 64 bit install to 32 bit
Upgrade 32 bit install to 64 bit
Installing on a partition with a blocksize other then 1024.

If it's because of a difference in the default blocksizes, I think it would be safe
to upgrade anyway, but haven't tried it myself.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:25:17 -0400, Keith <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>>> When I attempt to upgrade my desktop machine from 2008.0 (free) to
>>>> 2008.1 (free), I get this message:
>>>> "Installer have detected your installed Mandriva Linux system could not
>>>> safely be upgraded to Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring" (sic)
>
<snip much research!>
> Looking at that script, there are a three conditions that can generate it, all
> of which generate messages on the log, which you can see with alt+f3, during the
> install. Things that can generate it ...
> Upgrade 64 bit install to 32 bit
> Upgrade 32 bit install to 64 bit
> Installing on a partition with a blocksize other then 1024.
>
> If it's because of a difference in the default blocksizes, I think it would be safe
> to upgrade anyway, but haven't tried it myself.

Outstanding job, David :) Thanks for the research.

Keith wrote:
> When I attempt to upgrade my desktop machine from 2008.0 (free) to
> 2008.1 (free), I get this message:
>
> "Installer have detected your installed Mandriva Linux system could not
> safely be upgraded to Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring" (sic)
>
> I know there are many who believe that one should always do a clean
> install, but I'm curious why this message has been generated; what
> specifically is it objecting to, do you think?
>
> k

There is a well documented bug explaining problems in doing an upgrade.
I have not seen this as I always do a fresh install.

See: Upgrade from previous release fails with Undefined subroutine.....

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2008.1_E...: uniq_called

Watch line wrap for spaces.

Also: https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=39925

LeoTheLion

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:10:04 +0100
Keith <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>
> When I attempt to upgrade my desktop machine from 2008.0 (free) to
> 2008.1 (free), I get this message:
>
> "Installer have detected your installed Mandriva Linux system could not
> safely be upgraded to Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring" (sic)
>
> I know there are many who believe that one should always do a clean
> install, but I'm curious why this message has been generated; what
> specifically is it objecting to, do you think?

Funny you should mention upgrading. I just documented an upgrade from 2007.1 to
2008.0 to 2008.1 on my web log. I did this using urpmi instead of CD/DVD. It
went quite well, if slow. Doing it this way I did not experience that problem.
I did experience it doing a DVD upgrade on another system. The article is in the
TinyURL below.

Gene (e-mail: usenet0 \a\t eracc \d\o\t com)
blog.eracc.com latest article: http://preview.tinyurl.com/5qvng7
'Mandriva Linux Upgrades from Repositories Using urpmi'
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