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Old 02-08-2008, 05:33 AM
onepeanutwhistle@aol.com
 
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RHEL5.1 and Old Firefox/Thunderbird?

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Hello to All:

Today, February 7th, we saw the Red Hat folks release "Critical" and
"Moderate" patches, respectively, for Mozilla's Firefox and
Thunderbird.

I am grateful that they are keeping an eye on these workhorses for us.
However, Mozilla is poised to release Firefox 3 Beta 3 next week and
Mozilla's current Thunderbird is 2.0.0.9 for Linux.

With my RHEL 5.1 Tikanga, we are cautioned to stay with versions
1.5.0.12 if we hope to enjoy support from the Red Hat folks.

My meager investigations have not uncovered the reasons Red Hat has
not gone with the more featured Mozilla browser & MUA. Does anyone
have any additional insight regarding this situation? TIA

My best wishes to all.
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:50 PM
Dan Espen
 
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Re: RHEL5.1 and Old Firefox/Thunderbird?

onepeanutwhistle@aol.com writes:

> * * * * * * * Cross Posted * * * * * * *
> alt.os.linux alt.os.linux.redhat alt.linux.redhat
>
> Hello to All:
>
> Today, February 7th, we saw the Red Hat folks release "Critical" and
> "Moderate" patches, respectively, for Mozilla's Firefox and
> Thunderbird.
>
> I am grateful that they are keeping an eye on these workhorses for us.
> However, Mozilla is poised to release Firefox 3 Beta 3 next week and
> Mozilla's current Thunderbird is 2.0.0.9 for Linux.
>
> With my RHEL 5.1 Tikanga, we are cautioned to stay with versions
> 1.5.0.12 if we hope to enjoy support from the Red Hat folks.
>
> My meager investigations have not uncovered the reasons Red Hat has
> not gone with the more featured Mozilla browser & MUA. Does anyone
> have any additional insight regarding this situation? TIA


Any answer you get here is based on conjecture.
There are no official representatives of Red Hat on this forum
that I know about.

Since you are a customer, why don't you ask Red Hat.

It's pretty typical for distributors to be behind in releases.
They usually do their own testing.
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Old 02-08-2008, 04:14 PM
J.O. Aho
 
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Re: RHEL5.1 and Old Firefox/Thunderbird?

onepeanutwhistle@aol.com wrote:

As Dan said, we can just speculate on why RedHat does this or that, there
aren't anything that says that a RedHat employee with the knowledge subscribes
to any of these newsgroups you have posted to.


> I am grateful that they are keeping an eye on these workhorses for us.
> However, Mozilla is poised to release Firefox 3 Beta 3 next week and
> Mozilla's current Thunderbird is 2.0.0.9 for Linux.


Beta is still a long way from stable, so it's not a good way to measure if a
distribution is far behind or not.
There been issues with the 2.x series and I guess these could be the reasons
why they haven't switched, but kept on security patching the applications.
If you want the true reason, ask RedHat as Dan suggested.


> With my RHEL 5.1 Tikanga, we are cautioned to stay with versions
> 1.5.0.12 if we hope to enjoy support from the Red Hat folks.


RedHat ain't the only one who has this policy, as long as you use the
application part of the release, they can give you support and when you start
to use third party applications you are more or less on your own.



--

//Aho
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:12 PM
Jan Gerrit Kootstra
 
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Re: RHEL5.1 and Old Firefox/Thunderbird?

J.O. Aho wrote:
> onepeanutwhistle@aol.com wrote:
>
> As Dan said, we can just speculate on why RedHat does this or that, there
> aren't anything that says that a RedHat employee with the knowledge subscribes
> to any of these newsgroups you have posted to.
>
>
>
>>I am grateful that they are keeping an eye on these workhorses for us.
>>However, Mozilla is poised to release Firefox 3 Beta 3 next week and
>>Mozilla's current Thunderbird is 2.0.0.9 for Linux.

>
>
> Beta is still a long way from stable, so it's not a good way to measure if a
> distribution is far behind or not.
> There been issues with the 2.x series and I guess these could be the reasons
> why they haven't switched, but kept on security patching the applications.
> If you want the true reason, ask RedHat as Dan suggested.
>
>
>
>>With my RHEL 5.1 Tikanga, we are cautioned to stay with versions
>>1.5.0.12 if we hope to enjoy support from the Red Hat folks.

>
>
> RedHat ain't the only one who has this policy, as long as you use the
> application part of the release, they can give you support and when you start
> to use third party applications you are more or less on your own.
>
>
>

J.O Aho,


That Red Hat employee's are not reading these Newsgroups is pure
speculation.

They just reply as Private persons.

In general RHEL will use more stable release of software, if you want
newer software go for Fedora.


Kind regards,


Jan Gerrit Kootstra
A Red Hat customer, both in private as jobwise.
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Old 02-09-2008, 09:11 PM
onepeanutwhistle@aol.com
 
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Re: RHEL5.1 and Old Firefox/Thunderbird?

On Feb 7, 10:33 pm, onepeanutwhis...@aol.com wrote:
> * * * * * * * Cross Posted * * * * * * *
> alt.os.linux alt.os.linux.redhat alt.linux.redhat
>
> Hello to All:
>
> Today, February 7th, we saw the Red Hat folks release "Critical" and
> "Moderate" patches, respectively, for Mozilla's Firefox and
> Thunderbird.
>
> I am grateful that they are keeping an eye on these workhorses for us.
> However, Mozilla is poised to release Firefox 3 Beta 3 next week and
> Mozilla's current Thunderbird is 2.0.0.9 for Linux.
>
> With my RHEL 5.1 Tikanga, we are cautioned to stay with versions
> 1.5.0.12 if we hope to enjoy support from the Red Hat folks.
>
> My meager investigations have not uncovered the reasons Red Hat has
> not gone with the more featured Mozilla browser & MUA. Does anyone
> have any additional insight regarding this situation? TIA
>
> My best wishes to all.



My sincere thank you to all for your thoughtful posts. I replaced my
Fedora
system with RHEL5 for the stability. My curiousity made me wonder
but,
my satisfaction with reliablity will keep me where I am. Thank you
all.
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