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Old 04-21-2008, 02:41 AM
GeekBoy
 
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software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

I just put in a Airlink 101 AWLH403 (Atheros Chip) I had laying around after
seeing there are good drivers for it.

F8 sees it fine and I can configure it, but one problem, I cannot see what
access points I can pick up.

I live two blocks away from a university that I attend and I am trying to
save money by cutting off my cable and using their wireless system on
campus. (Yes, I have performed tests on it. 6MB down/4MB up. I don't get
that fast UP with cable)


I currently have a bidirectional attenna connected to it, but cannot tell
what access points I can pick up.
Thus I am wondering what I can use to perform a site survey.

I tried just activating the card, but without luck since it seems to want to
connect to an access point before it activates the card.

I also looked at what the packages available and installed them, but they
basically do the same thing. They seem to want you to connect to an access
point with knowing what you need to connetc to prior to connecting.

Thanks

GB



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Old 04-21-2008, 08:16 AM
zappa
 
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Re: software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

GeekBoy wrote:
> I just put in a Airlink 101 AWLH403 (Atheros Chip) I had laying around
> after seeing there are good drivers for it.
>
> F8 sees it fine and I can configure it, but one problem, I cannot see
> what access points I can pick up.
>
> I live two blocks away from a university that I attend and I am trying
> to save money by cutting off my cable and using their wireless system on
> campus. (Yes, I have performed tests on it. 6MB down/4MB up. I don't get
> that fast UP with cable)
>
>
> I currently have a bidirectional attenna connected to it, but cannot
> tell what access points I can pick up.
> Thus I am wondering what I can use to perform a site survey.
>
> I tried just activating the card, but without luck since it seems to
> want to connect to an access point before it activates the card.
>
> I also looked at what the packages available and installed them, but
> they basically do the same thing. They seem to want you to connect to an
> access point with knowing what you need to connetc to prior to connecting.
>
> Thanks
>
> GB
>
>
>

/sbin/iwlist ap will give you a list of access points in range.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:16 AM
zappa
 
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Re: software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

GeekBoy wrote:
> I just put in a Airlink 101 AWLH403 (Atheros Chip) I had laying around
> after seeing there are good drivers for it.
>
> F8 sees it fine and I can configure it, but one problem, I cannot see
> what access points I can pick up.
>
> I live two blocks away from a university that I attend and I am trying
> to save money by cutting off my cable and using their wireless system on
> campus. (Yes, I have performed tests on it. 6MB down/4MB up. I don't get
> that fast UP with cable)
>
>
> I currently have a bidirectional attenna connected to it, but cannot
> tell what access points I can pick up.
> Thus I am wondering what I can use to perform a site survey.
>
> I tried just activating the card, but without luck since it seems to
> want to connect to an access point before it activates the card.
>
> I also looked at what the packages available and installed them, but
> they basically do the same thing. They seem to want you to connect to an
> access point with knowing what you need to connetc to prior to connecting.
>
> Thanks
>
> GB
>
>
>

/sbin/iwlist ap will give you a list of access points in range.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:01 PM
GeekBoy
 
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Re: software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:16:37 +1000, zappa wrote:

> /sbin/iwlist ap



Thanks for that info.

Still no good. For some reason it is reporting no access points. More
than likely due to the fact that the card is "inactive," but I cannot
activate it for an unknown reason





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Old 04-21-2008, 04:01 PM
GeekBoy
 
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Re: software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:16:37 +1000, zappa wrote:

> /sbin/iwlist ap



Thanks for that info.

Still no good. For some reason it is reporting no access points. More
than likely due to the fact that the card is "inactive," but I cannot
activate it for an unknown reason





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Old 04-21-2008, 09:58 PM
zappa
 
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Re: software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

GeekBoy wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:16:37 +1000, zappa wrote:
>
>> /sbin/iwlist ap

>
>
> Thanks for that info.
>
> Still no good. For some reason it is reporting no access points. More
> than likely due to the fact that the card is "inactive," but I cannot
> activate it for an unknown reason
>
>
>
>
>

I presume you have the madwifi module installed and running. It was an
atheros card? lsmod should include ath_pci.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:58 PM
zappa
 
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Re: software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

GeekBoy wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:16:37 +1000, zappa wrote:
>
>> /sbin/iwlist ap

>
>
> Thanks for that info.
>
> Still no good. For some reason it is reporting no access points. More
> than likely due to the fact that the card is "inactive," but I cannot
> activate it for an unknown reason
>
>
>
>
>

I presume you have the madwifi module installed and running. It was an
atheros card? lsmod should include ath_pci.
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:09 AM
GeekBoy
 
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Re: software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:58:30 +1000, zappa wrote:

> GeekBoy wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:16:37 +1000, zappa wrote:
>>
>>> /sbin/iwlist ap

>>
>>
>> Thanks for that info.
>>
>> Still no good. For some reason it is reporting no access points. More
>> than likely due to the fact that the card is "inactive," but I cannot
>> activate it for an unknown reason
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

> I presume you have the madwifi module installed and running. It was an
> atheros card? lsmod should include ath_pci.





No. madwifi is not installed yet for the reason I was digging for on a
web site and wanted to confer first with others..seems like a crappy way
to get it running.

I havew to check lsmod...never messed with it.

"Fixing Fedora 8 wireless problem

http://coyotesg.blogspot.com/

Fedora 8's wireless is really disappointing.

So far, bugs findings include

1. wpa_supplicant is buggy & cannot connect.
2. default ath_5k driver conflicts with madwifi driver from livna
3. network manager is also buggy.

I have a DLink G520 using the atheros chipset. Here is how I managed to
get it working.
Note: This method will give you a fixed ip 192.168.0.17(or dhcp ip if you
like) & the startup
files will connect you to your preferred wireless network without any
manual intervention by users
like using network manager, which does not work anyway.

1. Blacklist ath_5k in /etc/modprobe.conf & /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.
2. Installed kmod-madwifi from livna
3. disabled network manager as it will interfere with the configuration
below.
4. updated wpa_supplicant

Tricky steps:

5. Previous version of Fedora before 8, atheros chipset is recognized as
ath0. In
Fedora 8, this does not work. Atheros chispet is recognized as wlan0. So,
I have
changed all previous reference to ath0 to wlan0.
6. I removed the ath_5k driver from kernel as some suggested. Not sure if
this is
absolutely necessary though.
7. At /etc/rc5.d, there is this file SXXwpa_supplicant. My case, XX=12.
Change it to a bigger
no. I changed it to 98. Reason being, wpa_supplicant was started before
other services &
so it does not work. S98wpa_supplicant makes wpa_supplicant starts after
most other services.
8. 4 files to be modified/created

/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0
/etc/dhclient-wlan0.conf
/etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf


My configuration files are as follow:"


From :

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=172718

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Old 04-22-2008, 12:09 AM
GeekBoy
 
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Re: software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:58:30 +1000, zappa wrote:

> GeekBoy wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:16:37 +1000, zappa wrote:
>>
>>> /sbin/iwlist ap

>>
>>
>> Thanks for that info.
>>
>> Still no good. For some reason it is reporting no access points. More
>> than likely due to the fact that the card is "inactive," but I cannot
>> activate it for an unknown reason
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

> I presume you have the madwifi module installed and running. It was an
> atheros card? lsmod should include ath_pci.





No. madwifi is not installed yet for the reason I was digging for on a
web site and wanted to confer first with others..seems like a crappy way
to get it running.

I havew to check lsmod...never messed with it.

"Fixing Fedora 8 wireless problem

http://coyotesg.blogspot.com/

Fedora 8's wireless is really disappointing.

So far, bugs findings include

1. wpa_supplicant is buggy & cannot connect.
2. default ath_5k driver conflicts with madwifi driver from livna
3. network manager is also buggy.

I have a DLink G520 using the atheros chipset. Here is how I managed to
get it working.
Note: This method will give you a fixed ip 192.168.0.17(or dhcp ip if you
like) & the startup
files will connect you to your preferred wireless network without any
manual intervention by users
like using network manager, which does not work anyway.

1. Blacklist ath_5k in /etc/modprobe.conf & /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.
2. Installed kmod-madwifi from livna
3. disabled network manager as it will interfere with the configuration
below.
4. updated wpa_supplicant

Tricky steps:

5. Previous version of Fedora before 8, atheros chipset is recognized as
ath0. In
Fedora 8, this does not work. Atheros chispet is recognized as wlan0. So,
I have
changed all previous reference to ath0 to wlan0.
6. I removed the ath_5k driver from kernel as some suggested. Not sure if
this is
absolutely necessary though.
7. At /etc/rc5.d, there is this file SXXwpa_supplicant. My case, XX=12.
Change it to a bigger
no. I changed it to 98. Reason being, wpa_supplicant was started before
other services &
so it does not work. S98wpa_supplicant makes wpa_supplicant starts after
most other services.
8. 4 files to be modified/created

/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0
/etc/dhclient-wlan0.conf
/etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf


My configuration files are as follow:"


From :

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=172718

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Old 04-22-2008, 02:21 AM
zappa
 
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Re: software to survey Access Points in Fedora 8?

GeekBoy wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:58:30 +1000, zappa wrote:
>
>> GeekBoy wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:16:37 +1000, zappa wrote:
>>>
>>>> /sbin/iwlist ap
>>>
>>> Thanks for that info.
>>>
>>> Still no good. For some reason it is reporting no access points. More
>>> than likely due to the fact that the card is "inactive," but I cannot
>>> activate it for an unknown reason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> I presume you have the madwifi module installed and running. It was an
>> atheros card? lsmod should include ath_pci.

>
>
>
>
> No. madwifi is not installed yet for the reason I was digging for on a
> web site and wanted to confer first with others..seems like a crappy way
> to get it running.
>
> I havew to check lsmod...never messed with it.
>
> "Fixing Fedora 8 wireless problem
>
> http://coyotesg.blogspot.com/
>
> Fedora 8's wireless is really disappointing.
>
> So far, bugs findings include
>
> 1. wpa_supplicant is buggy & cannot connect.
> 2. default ath_5k driver conflicts with madwifi driver from livna
> 3. network manager is also buggy.
>
> I have a DLink G520 using the atheros chipset. Here is how I managed to
> get it working.
> Note: This method will give you a fixed ip 192.168.0.17(or dhcp ip if you
> like) & the startup
> files will connect you to your preferred wireless network without any
> manual intervention by users
> like using network manager, which does not work anyway.
>
> 1. Blacklist ath_5k in /etc/modprobe.conf & /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.
> 2. Installed kmod-madwifi from livna
> 3. disabled network manager as it will interfere with the configuration
> below.
> 4. updated wpa_supplicant
>
> Tricky steps:
>
> 5. Previous version of Fedora before 8, atheros chipset is recognized as
> ath0. In
> Fedora 8, this does not work. Atheros chispet is recognized as wlan0. So,
> I have
> changed all previous reference to ath0 to wlan0.
> 6. I removed the ath_5k driver from kernel as some suggested. Not sure if
> this is
> absolutely necessary though.
> 7. At /etc/rc5.d, there is this file SXXwpa_supplicant. My case, XX=12.
> Change it to a bigger
> no. I changed it to 98. Reason being, wpa_supplicant was started before
> other services &
> so it does not work. S98wpa_supplicant makes wpa_supplicant starts after
> most other services.
> 8. 4 files to be modified/created
>
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0
> /etc/dhclient-wlan0.conf
> /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant
> /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
>
>
> My configuration files are as follow:"
>
>
> From :
>
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=172718
>

One resource is http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
Also have a look at the livna repository. It includes three packages
kmod-madwifi, kmod-madwifi-2.6.24.4-64.fc8 or whatever kernel version
you use & madwifi. Installing these packages should get madwifi onto
your system without building from scratch.
I have no trouble with fc8 and the atheros chipset.
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