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Old 07-09-2008, 12:55 AM
Blattus Slafaly
 
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Double dash


Every time somebody supplies commands with -- (double dashes) it never
works. The command always fails.

example: aticonfig --initial --input =/etc/X11/xorg.conf

The command fails. Maybe I don't get it, is there substitution needed?


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Old 07-09-2008, 03:00 AM
Russell D.
 
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Re: Double dash

Blattus Slafaly wrote:
>
> Every time somebody supplies commands with -- (double dashes) it never
> works. The command always fails.
>
> example: aticonfig --initial --input =/etc/X11/xorg.conf
>
> The command fails. Maybe I don't get it, is there substitution needed?
>
>


Nope
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:07 AM
David Bolt
 
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Re: Double dash

On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Blattus Slafaly wrote:-

>
>Every time somebody supplies commands with -- (double dashes) it never
>works. The command always fails.
>
>example: aticonfig --initial --input =/etc/X11/xorg.conf


What does "man aticonfig" say? If there is no man page, what does
"aticonfig --help" return? Does it say to have a space between the flag
and it's value:

--input /etc/X11/xorg.conf

or to use an '=':

--input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf


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David Bolt

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Old 07-09-2008, 09:35 PM
Claude Hopper
 
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Re: Double dash

David Bolt wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Blattus Slafaly wrote:-
>
>> Every time somebody supplies commands with -- (double dashes) it never
>> works. The command always fails.
>>
>> example: aticonfig --initial --input =/etc/X11/xorg.conf

>
> What does "man aticonfig" say? If there is no man page, what does
> "aticonfig --help" return? Does it say to have a space between the flag
> and it's value:
>
> --input /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>
> or to use an '=':
>
> --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
>
>
> Regards,
> David Bolt
>


I tried to do this: http://en.opensuse.org/ATI_Radeon_Xpress

openSUSE 11.0

This procedure worked for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64 (64 bits) installed on
Averatec 7155 EH1 (7100 series). It worked also on Dell Inspiron 1501
with the mentioned ATI Radeon Xpress200.
[edit]
Problem

One click install mentioned on ATI page didn't work as described on ATI
page.

Typing glxinfo on the terminal found direct rendering: No OpenGL vendor
string: Mesa
[edit]
Solution

First, install using the 1 click installer mentioned at the top of ATI,
package ati-fglrxG01-kmp-default and x11-video-fglrxG01 will be
installed if you want ensure by yast installation software and restart
X11 by typing ctrl+space+backspace. You will notice by typing

glxinfo

into a konsole will report that you are still not using direct
acceleration or the fglrx driver.

As root do

init 3

After logging in as root do

mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-001
sax2 -r -m 0=radeon
aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx

Adjust the screen settings as desired, and after you're finished type

init 5

to start up X again.

You may verify the configuration with glxinfo/glxgears to ensure that
fglrx is working properly.

It did not work. The aticonfig --initial..........did not work.

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Old 07-10-2008, 07:38 AM
graham
 
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Re: Double dash

On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:35:12 -0400, Claude Hopper wrote:

>
> As root do
>
> init 3
>
> After logging in as root do
>
> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-001


So xorg.conf no longer exists

> sax2 -r -m 0=radeon
> aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf


How can you input something that doesn't exist?
Try --output instead if input

> sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx
>
> Adjust the screen settings as desired, and after you're finished type
>
> init 5
>
> to start up X again.
>
> You may verify the configuration with glxinfo/glxgears to ensure that
> fglrx is working properly.
>
> It did not work. The aticonfig --initial..........did not work.


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Old 07-10-2008, 08:13 AM
David Bolt
 
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Re: Double dash

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Claude Hopper wrote:-

<snip>

>X11 by typing ctrl+space+backspace. You will notice by typing

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That won't work. It should be ctrl-alt-backspace, and with 11.0 you have
to use that key combo twice.

>aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf


What's the full error text returned when you use this?


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Old 07-10-2008, 10:24 AM
houghi
 
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Re: Double dash

David Bolt wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>X11 by typing ctrl+space+backspace. You will notice by typing

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> That won't work. It should be ctrl-alt-backspace, and with 11.0 you have
> to use that key combo twice.


And people wonder why I read the release notes. If you do, you know this
and they are not that long and can be read during the installation.

You can still read them. YaST, Miscaleneous, Release Notes. Takes about
30 seconds to read the headlines.

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Old 07-10-2008, 01:04 PM
David Bolt
 
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Re: Double dash

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, houghi wrote:-

<snip>

>And people wonder why I read the release notes.


I already knew about it because the change was mentioned on the factory
mailing list at the beginning of June, and I'm sure there was a debate
about it in one of the bugs. I can't tell you which one as I don't
archive the bugs mailing list, but the theory was that it helped to
prevent developers from accidently pressing that combo and wiping out
however many hours work they'd done since the last saved it all.

Looking at the beta2 changelog, the patches enabling it were applied for
that version, so the discussion probably took place in March and/or
April.

>If you do, you know this
>and they are not that long and can be read during the installation.


I only bothered to read them this time because it was a little boring
watching 6.5GB of packages being installed while upgrading my 10.1 box.

>You can still read them. YaST, Miscaleneous, Release Notes. Takes about
>30 seconds to read the headlines.


Or you can find them on the DVD, but apparently not the CDs, in the
"docu" directory.


Regards,
David Bolt

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Old 07-10-2008, 02:48 PM
houghi
 
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Re: Double dash

David Bolt wrote:
> I only bothered to read them this time because it was a little boring
> watching 6.5GB of packages being installed while upgrading my 10.1 box.


Reading it is part of my debugging when installing the last Beta.

>>You can still read them. YaST, Miscaleneous, Release Notes. Takes about
>>30 seconds to read the headlines.

>
> Or you can find them on the DVD, but apparently not the CDs, in the
> "docu" directory.


Probably. The advantage of using YaST is that it might be easier to find
your own language. Don't forget that the test for a network connection
is the download of the Realease notes, I think. At least somewhere
during the installation, it will download the latest version.

Advantage: You have the latest vession, so that if large changes happen,
you know about them.
Disadvantage: The first release notes you read might be differnt from
the last ones.

As I said, just skimming over them takes about 30 seconds. reading them
is also not much of an efford. It isn't the EULA and it is shorter then
many README files.

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Old 07-15-2008, 01:39 AM
Ulick Magee
 
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Re: Double dash

David Bolt wrote:

> I already knew about it because the change was mentioned on the factory
> mailing list at the beginning of June, and I'm sure there was a debate
> about it in one of the bugs. I can't tell you which one as I don't
> archive the bugs mailing list, but the theory was that it helped to
> prevent developers from accidently pressing that combo and wiping out
> however many hours work they'd done since the last saved it all.


I've just tried this a minute ago (encouraged by the thread here, but I
remember seeing this in the 11.0 release notes) and it didn't work for me.
The X session died on the first press of ctrl-alt-backspace. I was on my
10.3 machine at the time though... oops



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