Geoff Lane wrote:

> nunyabiznez wrote:
>
>> But I need to know if my laptop and all my peripherals will work
>> before I take the plunge... I am SO tired of Vista....
>
> You obviously have an up to date machine (Running Vista) so use the live
> CD to install to an external USB drive then alter your boot up to look
> for a USB device.
>
> The external drives are so cheap now.
>
> Geoff Lane

Please let us know when you're ready to stop with your stupid advice.
Especially to newbies.

Cheers.

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Francis (Frank) adds a new "gadget" to his Vista box ...
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dennis@home wrote:

>
>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:fvqp9s0b4g@news4.newsguy.com...
>> Geoff Lane wrote:
>>
>>> nunyabiznez wrote:
>>>
>>>> But I need to know if my laptop and all my peripherals will work
>>>> before I take the plunge... I am SO tired of Vista....
>>>
>>> You obviously have an up to date machine (Running Vista) so use the live
>>> CD to install to an external USB drive then alter your boot up to look
>>> for a USB device.
>>>
>>> The external drives are so cheap now.
>>>
>>> Geoff Lane
>>
>> Please let us know when you're ready to stop with your stupid advice.
>> Especially to newbies.
>
> Probably when you stop yours.

I don't give out advice unless I know it to be correct advice.

Cheers.

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"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Geoff Lane wrote:
>
>> nunyabiznez wrote:
>>
>>> But I need to know if my laptop and all my peripherals will work
>>> before I take the plunge... I am SO tired of Vista....
>>
>> You obviously have an up to date machine (Running Vista) so use the live
>> CD to install to an external USB drive then alter your boot up to look
>> for a USB device.
>>
>> The external drives are so cheap now.
>>
>> Geoff Lane
>
> Please let us know when you're ready to stop with your stupid advice.
> Especially to newbies.

Probably when you stop yours.

>dennis@home wrote:

>
>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:fvqp9s0b4g@news4.newsguy.com...
>> Geoff Lane wrote:
>>
>>> nunyabiznez wrote:
>>>
>>>> But I need to know if my laptop and all my peripherals will work
>>>> before I take the plunge... I am SO tired of Vista....
>>>
>>> You obviously have an up to date machine (Running Vista) so use the live
>>> CD to install to an external USB drive then alter your boot up to look
>>> for a USB device.
>>>
>>> The external drives are so cheap now.
>>>
>>> Geoff Lane
>>
>> Please let us know when you're ready to stop with your stupid advice.
>> Especially to newbies.
>
> Probably when you stop yours.

>I don't give out advice unless I know it to be correct advice.

>Cheers.


Actually the second drive option sounds like an excellent idea. This would
give me the opportunity to keep all my current information in case something
did go wrong. I have NO intentions of running any type of dual boot system.
I've encountered entirely too many problems with this type of setup...usually
generated by Windows.

As far as being a "Newbie". With Linux I agree... to a point. I found myself
using it more often while I was doing tech support. I currently maintain the
MCSE for Win2k/XP, CNA and CCNP. I got out of the field a few years ago due
to the inability to deal with idiots.... ie., "resign or be resigned."
Evidently, you aren't supposed to dress down a CEO in mixed company.. :)

I appreciate the help I've been given and will check out the different versions
over the next week.


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On 2008-05-07, nunyabiznez <knightmare@nunyabiznez.net> wrote:
>
>
>>dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:fvqp9s0b4g@news4.newsguy.com...
>>> Geoff Lane wrote:
>>>
>>>> nunyabiznez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But I need to know if my laptop and all my peripherals will work
>>>>> before I take the plunge... I am SO tired of Vista....
>>>>
>>>> You obviously have an up to date machine (Running Vista) so use the live
>>>> CD to install to an external USB drive then alter your boot up to look
>>>> for a USB device.
>>>>
>>>> The external drives are so cheap now.
>>>>
>>>> Geoff Lane
>>>
>>> Please let us know when you're ready to stop with your stupid advice.
>>> Especially to newbies.
>>
>> Probably when you stop yours.
>
>>I don't give out advice unless I know it to be correct advice.
>
>>Cheers.
>
>
> Actually the second drive option sounds like an excellent idea. This would
> give me the opportunity to keep all my current information in case something
> did go wrong. I have NO intentions of running any type of dual boot system.
> I've encountered entirely too many problems with this type of setup...usually
> generated by Windows.
>
> As far as being a "Newbie". With Linux I agree... to a point. I found myself
> using it more often while I was doing tech support. I currently maintain the
> MCSE for Win2k/XP, CNA and CCNP. I got out of the field a few years ago due
> to the inability to deal with idiots.... ie., "resign or be resigned."
> Evidently, you aren't supposed to dress down a CEO in mixed company.. :)
>
> I appreciate the help I've been given and will check out the different versions
> over the next week.
>
>

The most idiot proof suggestion is what I suggested, get another hard
drive for Linux and take the Windows drive out. Guaranteed NOT to give
you grief.
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>
>
> Actually the second drive option sounds like an excellent idea. This would
> give me the opportunity to keep all my current information in case
> something did go wrong. I have NO intentions of running any type of dual
> boot system. I've encountered entirely too many problems with this type of
> setup...usually generated by Windows.

For what it is worth, I have never had a problem with dual booting using
grub. I probably really started doing this only about 2 1/2 years ago, but
have probably done no less that 30 dual boot installations on several
different machines and encountered nary a problem. I have used several
flavors or Linux though Ubuntu the most. I just really find this most
convenient if you must maintain Windows also. Course a USB hard drive
would be easy too, but I just prefer a dual boot. One thing I have noticed
that has disappeared in Ubuntu live installation is the option of where
to install grub.With your experience with Windows it would be easy to fix
any problem with dual boot if you ever had one which only from my
experience would not be very likely. Just a thought.

Gregg

On Wed, 07 May 2008 06:53:38 -0500, Gregg Fowler wrote:


>>
>> Actually the second drive option sounds like an excellent idea. This
>> would give me the opportunity to keep all my current information in
>> case something did go wrong. I have NO intentions of running any type
>> of dual boot system. I've encountered entirely too many problems with
>> this type of setup...usually generated by Windows.
>
> For what it is worth, I have never had a problem with dual booting using
> grub. I probably really started doing this only about 2 1/2 years ago,
> but have probably done no less that 30 dual boot installations on
> several different machines and encountered nary a problem. I have used
> several flavors or Linux though Ubuntu the most. I just really find this
> most convenient if you must maintain Windows also. Course a USB hard
> drive would be easy too, but I just prefer a dual boot. One thing I have
> noticed that has disappeared in Ubuntu live installation is the option
> of where to install grub.With your experience with Windows it would be
> easy to fix any problem with dual boot if you ever had one which only
> from my experience would not be very likely. Just a thought.
>
> Gregg

A Windows VM is much better than dual booting for most things. I use
VMmware Server (which is free) on Fedora with both Win2K and WinXP VMs.
For most Windows apps a VM is just as good as native Windows, in fact I
think it's better. Not only can you use Linux and Apps at the same time,
you can even cut and paste between them. Another advantage is that you
can avoid using Windows for anything dangerous, i.e. anything that
touches the Internet such as mail or web browsing. On my systems the only
Internet access that I let Windows do is updates from trusted websites,
i.e. Intuit for Quickbooks and Microsoft for the Windows updates. I've
been running windows VMs since about 2000 starting with Win98 on Win4Lin
and currently 2K and XP on VMware. I've never had a virus on any of my
Windows VMs in all of that time even though I don't use any antivirus
software on the VMs. However even if you do get infected or messed up in
anyway its trivial to fix because the only thing you have to do is
replace the VM with it's backup copy. Another advantage is that you can
have separate VMs for separate purposes. I keep a general purpose Win2K
VM for things like Quickbooks, Quicken and Word and then I have special
purpose ones for other things, that way I don't worry about DLL
conflicts. The only machine that has a native XP partition is my laptop.
The reason that I maintain that is because I occasionally need to use
some piece of hardware that isn't supported by Linux, for example my
label printer and an old Garmin GPS. However I only boot into that
partition a few times a year, the VMs suffice for all of my everyday
needs. The one other reason to maintain a native Windows partition is if
you have to call tech support for a system that came with Windows. Having
a Windows partition saves arguing with the tech support people.

There is supposed to be a problem with dual booting Vista SP1. Microsoft
has put some security checks in that get confused if there is another
boot loader. I'm not sure what the details are or if there is a
workaround, I suggest you Google dual boot Vista SP1.