As I mentioned before, our Co is switching its server side apps, which
suffered from low network perfromance of Windows, to Linux.

So far the results are encouraging, as Linux is able to use the
network cards, memory and CPU much more intensively, so we seem to be
able to put a lot more apps on a Linux server, than we could with
Windows. Plus it is more reliable. (cannot go into details)

We are also scripting a lot of stuff, like automating setting up
database replication, and other things and they will work much better
under Linux. That keeps me plenty busy.

Now, here's the real news: most likely we will also migrate user
workstations, that also run extremely demanding apps, to Linux as
well. Windows seems to be unable to effectively use CPUs for many
threads, that's in addition to its networking weaknesses. So we'll
bite the bullet and try switching a few most power hungry desktops to
Linux.

We already use a platform independent GUI library, so switching should
not be a problem code-wise.

Web browser and Solitaire will continue to be available to the users.

i

Ingoramus20788 wrote:
> As I mentioned before, our Co is switching its server side apps, which
> suffered from low network perfromance of Windows, to Linux.
>
> So far the results are encouraging, as Linux is able to use the
> network cards, memory and CPU much more intensively, so we seem to be
> able to put a lot more apps on a Linux server, than we could with
> Windows. Plus it is more reliable. (cannot go into details)
>
> We are also scripting a lot of stuff, like automating setting up
> database replication, and other things and they will work much better
> under Linux. That keeps me plenty busy.
>
> Now, here's the real news: most likely we will also migrate user
> workstations, that also run extremely demanding apps, to Linux as
> well. Windows seems to be unable to effectively use CPUs for many
> threads, that's in addition to its networking weaknesses. So we'll
> bite the bullet and try switching a few most power hungry desktops to
> Linux.
>
> We already use a platform independent GUI library, so switching should
> not be a problem code-wise.
>
> Web browser and Solitaire will continue to be available to the users.
>
> i

Glad to hear you and your co. are having a better experience under Linux
and I hope both you and the company the best luck for the future in
using this OS. :)

On 2008-07-17, Ben <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ingoramus20788 wrote:
>> As I mentioned before, our Co is switching its server side apps, which
>> suffered from low network perfromance of Windows, to Linux.
>>
>> So far the results are encouraging, as Linux is able to use the
>> network cards, memory and CPU much more intensively, so we seem to be
>> able to put a lot more apps on a Linux server, than we could with
>> Windows. Plus it is more reliable. (cannot go into details)
>>
>> We are also scripting a lot of stuff, like automating setting up
>> database replication, and other things and they will work much better
>> under Linux. That keeps me plenty busy.
>>
>> Now, here's the real news: most likely we will also migrate user
>> workstations, that also run extremely demanding apps, to Linux as
>> well. Windows seems to be unable to effectively use CPUs for many
>> threads, that's in addition to its networking weaknesses. So we'll
>> bite the bullet and try switching a few most power hungry desktops to
>> Linux.
>>
>> We already use a platform independent GUI library, so switching should
>> not be a problem code-wise.
>>
>> Web browser and Solitaire will continue to be available to the users.
>>
>> i
>
> Glad to hear you and your co. are having a better experience under Linux
> and I hope both you and the company the best luck for the future in
> using this OS. :)

I am relatively optimistic. I will very strongly try to drive marginal
"cost of ownership" or, more exactloy, cost of system administration,
down to zero per machine. I want all of them to be managed by
scripts.

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* Ingoramus20788 peremptorily fired off this memo:

> Now, here's the real news: most likely we will also migrate user
> workstations, that also run extremely demanding apps, to Linux as
> well. Windows seems to be unable to effectively use CPUs for many
> threads...

Huh? Do you mean "processes"?

> We already use a platform independent GUI library, so switching should
> not be a problem code-wise.
>
> Web browser and Solitaire will continue to be available to the users.

You can fit a lot more casual games in a Linux box <grin>.

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On 2008-07-18, Linonut <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote:
> * Ingoramus20788 peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> Now, here's the real news: most likely we will also migrate user
>> workstations, that also run extremely demanding apps, to Linux as
>> well. Windows seems to be unable to effectively use CPUs for many
>> threads...
>
> Huh? Do you mean "processes"?

No, I mean threads.

i

>> We already use a platform independent GUI library, so switching should
>> not be a problem code-wise.
>>
>> Web browser and Solitaire will continue to be available to the users.
>
> You can fit a lot more casual games in a Linux box <grin>.
>

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Ignoramus20788 wrote:
> On 2008-07-17, Ben <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ingoramus20788 wrote:
>>> As I mentioned before, our Co is switching its server side apps, which
>>> suffered from low network perfromance of Windows, to Linux.
>>>
>>> So far the results are encouraging, as Linux is able to use the
>>> network cards, memory and CPU much more intensively, so we seem to be
>>> able to put a lot more apps on a Linux server, than we could with
>>> Windows. Plus it is more reliable. (cannot go into details)
>>>
>>> We are also scripting a lot of stuff, like automating setting up
>>> database replication, and other things and they will work much better
>>> under Linux. That keeps me plenty busy.
>>>
>>> Now, here's the real news: most likely we will also migrate user
>>> workstations, that also run extremely demanding apps, to Linux as
>>> well. Windows seems to be unable to effectively use CPUs for many
>>> threads, that's in addition to its networking weaknesses. So we'll
>>> bite the bullet and try switching a few most power hungry desktops to
>>> Linux.
>>>
>>> We already use a platform independent GUI library, so switching should
>>> not be a problem code-wise.
>>>
>>> Web browser and Solitaire will continue to be available to the users.
>>>
>>> i
>> Glad to hear you and your co. are having a better experience under Linux
>> and I hope both you and the company the best luck for the future in
>> using this OS. :)
>
> I am relatively optimistic. I will very strongly try to drive marginal
> "cost of ownership" or, more exactloy, cost of system administration,
> down to zero per machine. I want all of them to be managed by
> scripts.
>

You'll still have to run some manual maintenance work on them here and
there. :P

On 2008-07-18, Ben <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus20788 wrote:
>> On 2008-07-17, Ben <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ingoramus20788 wrote:
>>>> As I mentioned before, our Co is switching its server side apps, which
>>>> suffered from low network perfromance of Windows, to Linux.
>>>>
>>>> So far the results are encouraging, as Linux is able to use the
>>>> network cards, memory and CPU much more intensively, so we seem to be
>>>> able to put a lot more apps on a Linux server, than we could with
>>>> Windows. Plus it is more reliable. (cannot go into details)
>>>>
>>>> We are also scripting a lot of stuff, like automating setting up
>>>> database replication, and other things and they will work much better
>>>> under Linux. That keeps me plenty busy.
>>>>
>>>> Now, here's the real news: most likely we will also migrate user
>>>> workstations, that also run extremely demanding apps, to Linux as
>>>> well. Windows seems to be unable to effectively use CPUs for many
>>>> threads, that's in addition to its networking weaknesses. So we'll
>>>> bite the bullet and try switching a few most power hungry desktops to
>>>> Linux.
>>>>
>>>> We already use a platform independent GUI library, so switching should
>>>> not be a problem code-wise.
>>>>
>>>> Web browser and Solitaire will continue to be available to the users.
>>>>
>>>> i
>>> Glad to hear you and your co. are having a better experience under Linux
>>> and I hope both you and the company the best luck for the future in
>>> using this OS. :)
>>
>> I am relatively optimistic. I will very strongly try to drive marginal
>> "cost of ownership" or, more exactloy, cost of system administration,
>> down to zero per machine. I want all of them to be managed by
>> scripts.
>>
>
> You'll still have to run some manual maintenance work on them here and
> there. :P

Do you mean hardware or software?

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Ignoramus31221 wrote:
> On 2008-07-18, Ben <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ignoramus20788 wrote:
>>> On 2008-07-17, Ben <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Ingoramus20788 wrote:
>>>>> As I mentioned before, our Co is switching its server side apps, which
>>>>> suffered from low network perfromance of Windows, to Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far the results are encouraging, as Linux is able to use the
>>>>> network cards, memory and CPU much more intensively, so we seem to be
>>>>> able to put a lot more apps on a Linux server, than we could with
>>>>> Windows. Plus it is more reliable. (cannot go into details)
>>>>>
>>>>> We are also scripting a lot of stuff, like automating setting up
>>>>> database replication, and other things and they will work much better
>>>>> under Linux. That keeps me plenty busy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, here's the real news: most likely we will also migrate user
>>>>> workstations, that also run extremely demanding apps, to Linux as
>>>>> well. Windows seems to be unable to effectively use CPUs for many
>>>>> threads, that's in addition to its networking weaknesses. So we'll
>>>>> bite the bullet and try switching a few most power hungry desktops to
>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> We already use a platform independent GUI library, so switching should
>>>>> not be a problem code-wise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Web browser and Solitaire will continue to be available to the users.
>>>>>
>>>>> i
>>>> Glad to hear you and your co. are having a better experience under Linux
>>>> and I hope both you and the company the best luck for the future in
>>>> using this OS. :)
>>> I am relatively optimistic. I will very strongly try to drive marginal
>>> "cost of ownership" or, more exactloy, cost of system administration,
>>> down to zero per machine. I want all of them to be managed by
>>> scripts.
>>>
>> You'll still have to run some manual maintenance work on them here and
>> there. :P
>
> Do you mean hardware or software?
>

Most likely both.

On 2008-07-18, Ben <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus31221 wrote:
>> On 2008-07-18, Ben <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ignoramus20788 wrote:
>>>> On 2008-07-17, Ben <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Ingoramus20788 wrote:
>>>>>> As I mentioned before, our Co is switching its server side apps, which
>>>>>> suffered from low network perfromance of Windows, to Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far the results are encouraging, as Linux is able to use the
>>>>>> network cards, memory and CPU much more intensively, so we seem to be
>>>>>> able to put a lot more apps on a Linux server, than we could with
>>>>>> Windows. Plus it is more reliable. (cannot go into details)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are also scripting a lot of stuff, like automating setting up
>>>>>> database replication, and other things and they will work much better
>>>>>> under Linux. That keeps me plenty busy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, here's the real news: most likely we will also migrate user
>>>>>> workstations, that also run extremely demanding apps, to Linux as
>>>>>> well. Windows seems to be unable to effectively use CPUs for many
>>>>>> threads, that's in addition to its networking weaknesses. So we'll
>>>>>> bite the bullet and try switching a few most power hungry desktops to
>>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already use a platform independent GUI library, so switching should
>>>>>> not be a problem code-wise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Web browser and Solitaire will continue to be available to the users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i
>>>>> Glad to hear you and your co. are having a better experience under Linux
>>>>> and I hope both you and the company the best luck for the future in
>>>>> using this OS. :)
>>>> I am relatively optimistic. I will very strongly try to drive marginal
>>>> "cost of ownership" or, more exactloy, cost of system administration,
>>>> down to zero per machine. I want all of them to be managed by
>>>> scripts.
>>>>
>>> You'll still have to run some manual maintenance work on them here and
>>> there. :P
>>
>> Do you mean hardware or software?
>>
>
> Most likely both.

I cannot do much about broken hard drives, etc.

Software wise, I want to update all of them with one script.
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:20:53 -0500, Ingoramus20788
<ignoramus20788@NOSPAM.20788.invalid> wrote:


Yeah, right. Are you done with your fairy tale? Your crappy app will
not run any better on that 70's OS. If your developpers cannot write
code that scales, switching OS will only make things worse.