On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:24:02 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Welcome to openSUSE.org...Our goal is to create and distribute the world's
> most usable Linux.
> http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
>
>
> "My new Toshiba A200 (PSAF1A) works beautifully after a week of hard work
> getting opensuse 10.3 to work."
> http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/in...howtopic=63815

Only a week?

Some people spend MONTHS trying to get Linux to work properly...

Others never get Linux working and dump it. This is the most frequent
outcome of trying Linux.

It's a good thing Linux is free, but you know how that goes:

Linux is free only if your time has no value.

--
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:59:49 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:24:02 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Welcome to openSUSE.org...Our goal is to create and distribute the
>> world's most usable Linux.
>> http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
>>
>>
>> "My new Toshiba A200 (PSAF1A) works beautifully after a week of hard
>> work getting opensuse 10.3 to work."
>> http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/in...howtopic=63815
>
> Only a week?
>
> Some people spend MONTHS trying to get Linux to work properly...
>
> Others never get Linux working and dump it. This is the most frequent
> outcome of trying Linux.

... at least that's what you hope.

>
> It's a good thing Linux is free, but you know how that goes:
>
> Linux is free only if your time has no value.

Another piece of dishonest FUD from flatfarb.


--
Rick

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:44:20 -0500, Rick wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:59:49 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:24:02 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Welcome to openSUSE.org...Our goal is to create and distribute the
>>> world's most usable Linux.
>>> http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
>>>
>>>
>>> "My new Toshiba A200 (PSAF1A) works beautifully after a week of hard
>>> work getting opensuse 10.3 to work."
>>> http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/in...howtopic=63815
>>
>> Only a week?
>>
>> Some people spend MONTHS trying to get Linux to work properly...
>>
>> Others never get Linux working and dump it. This is the most frequent
>> outcome of trying Linux.
>
> .. at least that's what you hope.

No..That's what I know....

http://neverendinginternet.wordpress...-took-a-month/

>>
>> It's a good thing Linux is free, but you know how that goes:
>>
>> Linux is free only if your time has no value.
>
> Another piece of dishonest FUD from flatfarb.

See above...
Now back to your viper pit Rick...


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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:54:33 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:44:20 -0500, Rick wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:59:49 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:24:02 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Welcome to openSUSE.org...Our goal is to create and distribute the
>>>> world's most usable Linux.
>>>> http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "My new Toshiba A200 (PSAF1A) works beautifully after a week of hard
>>>> work getting opensuse 10.3 to work."
>>>> http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/in...howtopic=63815
>>>
>>> Only a week?
>>>
>>> Some people spend MONTHS trying to get Linux to work properly...
>>>
>>> Others never get Linux working and dump it. This is the most frequent
>>> outcome of trying Linux.
>>
>> .. at least that's what you hope.
>
> No..That's what I know....
>
> http://neverendinginternet.wordpress...t-only-took-a-
month/

Where is the dumping part? And how is that the "most frequent" outcome?

>
>
>>> It's a good thing Linux is free, but you know how that goes:
>>>
>>> Linux is free only if your time has no value.
>>
>> Another piece of dishonest FUD from flatfarb.
>
> See above...
> Now back to your viper pit Rick...


Another piece of dishonest FUD from flatfarb.


--
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On 2008-07-22, Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:59:49 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:24:02 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Welcome to openSUSE.org...Our goal is to create and distribute the
>>> world's most usable Linux.
>>> http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
>>>
>>>
>>> "My new Toshiba A200 (PSAF1A) works beautifully after a week of hard
>>> work getting opensuse 10.3 to work."
>>> http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/in...howtopic=63815
>>
>> Only a week?
>>
>> Some people spend MONTHS trying to get Linux to work properly...

If they have some sort of hardware support issue then it's either
a matter of it working or not. "months" simply don't factor into it.

[deletia]

It either works right away and automagically in a manner far far
more robust and easy than Windows or it doesn't work at all.

It has always been this way.

Fortunately, you could always try Linux for free.

These days, you can just use a LiveCD and check things out
from there. You don't even have to disturb your running system.

Trying Linux is cost free and risk free. So you don't have to
second guess about your particular hardware or pay attention to
any part of the peanut gallery.

You can make up your own mind...

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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:02:18 -0500, Rick wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:54:33 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:44:20 -0500, Rick wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:59:49 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:24:02 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to openSUSE.org...Our goal is to create and distribute the
>>>>> world's most usable Linux.
>>>>> http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "My new Toshiba A200 (PSAF1A) works beautifully after a week of hard
>>>>> work getting opensuse 10.3 to work."
>>>>> http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/in...howtopic=63815
>>>>
>>>> Only a week?
>>>>
>>>> Some people spend MONTHS trying to get Linux to work properly...
>>>>
>>>> Others never get Linux working and dump it. This is the most frequent
>>>> outcome of trying Linux.
>>>
>>> .. at least that's what you hope.
>>
>> No..That's what I know....
>>
>> http://neverendinginternet.wordpress...t-only-took-a-
> month/
>
> Where is the dumping part? And how is that the "most frequent" outcome?

Look at the usual press when a new Linux distribution gets released...
Stuff like : 8million downloads in 2 weeks etc....
Same for OpenOffice.

And that very well may be true.

However, now look at the statistics for people who are actually USING
desktop Linux.

If those very same downloads were being used for any length of time, Linux
would have buried Microsoft by now.

it hasn't....

People try Linux.
People dump Linux very quickly.
It happens all the time.

Use your head for a change Rick..


>>
>>
>>>> It's a good thing Linux is free, but you know how that goes:
>>>>
>>>> Linux is free only if your time has no value.
>>>
>>> Another piece of dishonest FUD from flatfarb.
>>
>> See above...
>> Now back to your viper pit Rick...
>
>
> Another piece of dishonest FUD from flatfarb.

I just proved you wrong on all counts Rick, but you'll come back with some
asinine reply that makes no sense or extends the goal posts which is why I
rarely reply to your tripe much anymore.


--
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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2008-07-22, Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:59:49 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:24:02 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Welcome to openSUSE.org...Our goal is to create and distribute the
>>>> world's most usable Linux.
>>>> http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "My new Toshiba A200 (PSAF1A) works beautifully after a week of hard
>>>> work getting opensuse 10.3 to work."
>>>> http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/in...howtopic=63815
>>> Only a week?
>>>
>>> Some people spend MONTHS trying to get Linux to work properly...
>
> If they have some sort of hardware support issue then it's either
> a matter of it working or not. "months" simply don't factor into it.
>
> [deletia]
>
> It either works right away and automagically in a manner far far
> more robust and easy than Windows or it doesn't work at all.
>
> It has always been this way.
>
> Fortunately, you could always try Linux for free.
>
> These days, you can just use a LiveCD and check things out
> from there. You don't even have to disturb your running system.
>
> Trying Linux is cost free and risk free. So you don't have to
> second guess about your particular hardware or pay attention to
> any part of the peanut gallery.
>
> You can make up your own mind...
>

I've never really seen a live CD as a fair trial. My only use of them so
far has been to play chess while installing the OS from the live CD.

They're slow, don't have full functionality, and leave the person
thinking that's what the full product might be like if they know
absolutely nothing about Linux.

Live CDs as a trial as pretty much the same thing as giving someone last
week's leftovers as a try before you buy. at a Deli or something.

Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
> Look at the usual press when a new Linux distribution gets released...
> Stuff like : 8million downloads in 2 weeks etc....
> Same for OpenOffice.
>
> And that very well may be true.
>
> However, now look at the statistics for people who are actually USING
> desktop Linux.
>
> If those very same downloads were being used for any length of time,
> Linux would have buried Microsoft by now.

Well, no. If 8 million folks are using Linux, out of 1 billion desktop
installation, that's about right.

By some estimates, there are about 8 million truely insane people on the
globe. There is some disagreement about the overlap between these two
groups.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:11:03 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>> Look at the usual press when a new Linux distribution gets released...
>> Stuff like : 8million downloads in 2 weeks etc....
>> Same for OpenOffice.
>>
>> And that very well may be true.
>>
>> However, now look at the statistics for people who are actually USING
>> desktop Linux.
>>
>> If those very same downloads were being used for any length of time,
>> Linux would have buried Microsoft by now.
>
> Well, no. If 8 million folks are using Linux, out of 1 billion desktop
> installation, that's about right.
>
> By some estimates, there are about 8 million truely insane people on the
> globe. There is some disagreement about the overlap between these two
> groups.

The 8 million was figurtively speaking for ONE release and a short period
of time.

Add them all together, IOW the reported downloads by ALL the distributions
releasing press about their latest creation.

--
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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

* HeyBub peremptorily fired off this memo:

> Well, no. If 8 million folks are using Linux, out of 1 billion desktop
> installation, that's about right.
>
> By some estimates, there are about 8 million truely insane people on the
> globe. There is some disagreement about the overlap between these two
> groups.

Idiot.

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