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Old 07-23-2008, 03:05 AM
charles cashion
 
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firefox crash (often)

I am running firefox 2.0.0.16 on ubuntu 7.10.
Firefox crashes every few minutes (sometimes).
Other times Firefox can run for half an hour.
I have just learned about sudo apt-get. If I
#sudo apt-get install firefox will it load
firefox on top of itself?

Q2: If I remove/delete firefox, will sudo apt-get
still function from a terminal? Of YES, then I can
remove firefox and sudo apt-get install firefox.
YES?

Q3: I think it would be good to know a little
about apt-get. I googled, and found a short story
on wikipedia. I like wikipedia. I can usually
read and understand wikipedia. Is there an
official apt-get tutorial?
Thanks,
Charles

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Old 07-23-2008, 03:16 AM
Jonathan N. Little
 
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Re: firefox crash (often)

charles cashion wrote:
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> Q3: I think it would be good to know a little
> about apt-get. I googled, and found a short story
> on wikipedia. I like wikipedia. I can usually
> read and understand wikipedia. Is there an
> official apt-get tutorial?


http://www.monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
How to install ANYTHING in Ubuntu!

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Old 07-23-2008, 04:03 AM
Stephen Cullum
 
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Re: firefox crash (often)

charles cashion wrote:
> I am running firefox 2.0.0.16 on ubuntu 7.10.
> Firefox crashes every few minutes (sometimes).
> Other times Firefox can run for half an hour.
> I have just learned about sudo apt-get. If I
> #sudo apt-get install firefox will it load
> firefox on top of itself?
>
> Q2: If I remove/delete firefox, will sudo apt-get
> still function from a terminal? Of YES, then I can
> remove firefox and sudo apt-get install firefox.
> YES?
>
> Q3: I think it would be good to know a little
> about apt-get. I googled, and found a short story
> on wikipedia. I like wikipedia. I can usually
> read and understand wikipedia. Is there an
> official apt-get tutorial?
> Thanks,
> Charles
>

You can try in the terminal dpkg-reconfigure first. This will
reconfigure the Firefox package. If configuration has been your problem
this should fix your problem. If you decide to remove and reinstall
Firefox use sudo apt-get purge Firefox && install Firefox
This should completely uninstall Firefox including it's configuration
files and then reinstall it. Run apt-get search Firefox , first to make
sure you have the right name for the package.
Here is a link to a manual online about apt-get
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
Also you can find out stuff from the man page.
Man apt-get
Use page up and down to move through the document. When finish enter q
which will return you to the terminal. There are other browsers you can
try. Use apt-get search browser to find them. If you find a package you
are interested use apt-get show browser package to find information on
it. Then apt-get install browser package to install it.
You can also use synaptic also. system-->administration-->synaptic to
use a GUI to install and uninstall programs.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:22 AM
Mouse
 
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Re: firefox crash (often)

Stephen Cullum wrote:
> charles cashion wrote:
>> I am running firefox 2.0.0.16 on ubuntu 7.10.
>> Firefox crashes every few minutes (sometimes).
>> Other times Firefox can run for half an hour.
>> I have just learned about sudo apt-get. If I
>> #sudo apt-get install firefox will it load
>> firefox on top of itself?
>>
>> Q2: If I remove/delete firefox, will sudo apt-get
>> still function from a terminal? Of YES, then I can
>> remove firefox and sudo apt-get install firefox.
>> YES?
>>
>> Q3: I think it would be good to know a little
>> about apt-get. I googled, and found a short story
>> on wikipedia. I like wikipedia. I can usually
>> read and understand wikipedia. Is there an
>> official apt-get tutorial?
>> Thanks,
>> Charles
>>

> You can try in the terminal dpkg-reconfigure first. This will
> reconfigure the Firefox package. If configuration has been your problem
> this should fix your problem. If you decide to remove and reinstall
> Firefox use sudo apt-get purge Firefox && install Firefox
> This should completely uninstall Firefox including it's configuration
> files and then reinstall it. Run apt-get search Firefox , first to make
> sure you have the right name for the package.
> Here is a link to a manual online about apt-get
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
> Also you can find out stuff from the man page.
> Man apt-get
> Use page up and down to move through the document. When finish enter q
> which will return you to the terminal. There are other browsers you can
> try. Use apt-get search browser to find them. If you find a package you
> are interested use apt-get show browser package to find information on
> it. Then apt-get install browser package to install it.
> You can also use synaptic also. system-->administration-->synaptic to
> use a GUI to install and uninstall programs.

Thanks. I am having the exact same problem. I've followed your
instructions and note that when firefox is re-installed it is from an
already downloaded package located on my harddrive. FF still crashes
after a minute or two. How do I remove all traces of FF from my machine
so that a fresh download will happen?
Mouse
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:47 AM
Niklaus Kuehnis
 
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Re: firefox crash (often)

charles cashion <cmcnuz@dunjas.com> wrote:
> I am running firefox 2.0.0.16 on ubuntu 7.10.
> Firefox crashes every few minutes (sometimes).
> Other times Firefox can run for half an hour.
> I have just learned about sudo apt-get. If I
> #sudo apt-get install firefox will it load
> firefox on top of itself?


Probably the firefox you downloaded from the firefox homepage is not
installed in /usr/bin but in /usr/local/bin or similar. If you
apt-get firefox you'll have two firefoxes and one of them will run by
default (probably the /usr/local/bin one).

> Q2: If I remove/delete firefox, will sudo apt-get
> still function from a terminal? Of YES, then I can
> remove firefox and sudo apt-get install firefox.
> YES?


Yes. If you installed firefox NOT with apt-get you can remove it
and install the Ubuntu version with apt-get.

> Q3: I think it would be good to know a little
> about apt-get. I googled, and found a short story
> on wikipedia. I like wikipedia. I can usually
> read and understand wikipedia. Is there an
> official apt-get tutorial?


Yes:
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/add-app...s/C/index.html

Full documentation:
apt-get install apt-doc

HTH,
Niklaus
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:54 AM
Niklaus Kuehnis
 
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Re: firefox crash (often)

Mouse <silvermouse@hotpop.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I am having the exact same problem. I've followed your
> instructions and note that when firefox is re-installed it is from an
> already downloaded package located on my harddrive. FF still crashes
> after a minute or two. How do I remove all traces of FF from my machine
> so that a fresh download will happen?
> Mouse


sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get purge firefox
rm -r ~/.mozilla/firefox
sudo apt-get install firefox

Maybe remove the entire .mozilla folder in your home directory, not
just the firefox folder.

HTH,
Niklaus
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:48 PM
Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)
 
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Re: firefox crash (often)


> I am running firefox 2.0.0.16 on ubuntu 7.10.
> Firefox crashes every few minutes (sometimes).
> Other times Firefox can run for half an hour.
> I have just learned about sudo apt-get. If I
> #sudo apt-get install firefox will it load
> firefox on top of itself?


Start a new profile after backing up your
bookmarks and passwords.

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Old 07-23-2008, 02:10 PM
teabag
 
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Re: firefox crash (often)

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:48:07 +0800, Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:

>> I am running firefox 2.0.0.16 on ubuntu 7.10.
>> Firefox crashes every few minutes (sometimes).
>> Other times Firefox can run for half an hour.
>> I have just learned about sudo apt-get. If I
>> #sudo apt-get install firefox will it load
>> firefox on top of itself?

>
> Start a new profile after backing up your
> bookmarks and passwords.


If you move your old paswords file (signons?.txt)[1] you will also need to
move key3.db to be able to use it.
[1] the "?" will be a 2 or a 3 depending on which major version of Firefox
you are using.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:23 PM
SINNER
 
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Re: firefox crash (often)

* charles cashion wrote in alt.os.linux.ubuntu:
> I am running firefox 2.0.0.16 on ubuntu 7.10.
> Firefox crashes every few minutes (sometimes).
> Other times Firefox can run for half an hour.
> I have just learned about sudo apt-get. If I
> #sudo apt-get install firefox will it load
> firefox on top of itself?


Yes but I doubt that is where your issue is. Can we assume that you are
using the version of Firefox that came with your build of Ubuntu or did
you download it and install it from some other source?

> Q2: If I remove/delete firefox, will sudo apt-get
> still function from a terminal?


The 2 are unrelated. apt-get is a front-end to dpkg which is the debian
installer.

> Of YES, then I can
> remove firefox and sudo apt-get install firefox.
> YES?


Yes, but why would you not be using synaptic? System / Administration /
Synaptic Package Manager and find firefox and right click and choose
reinstall or complete removal (after you've renamed ~/.mozilla)

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Old 07-23-2008, 08:20 PM
charles cashion
 
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Re: firefox crash (often)

SINNER wrote:
>
> Yes but I doubt that is where your issue is.


Since the (mis)behavior is not consistent, I tend to agree.

> Can we assume that you are using the version
> of Firefox that came with your build of Ubuntu or did
> you download it and install it from some other source?


YES. I am using firefox 2.0.0.16 which was installed by ubuntu 7.10
(Actually, that might not be 100% accurate. The first thing ubuntu
did... the first time I ran it... was to install 228 updates. It
took over an hour to install all 228 updates. I cannot be certain
whether one of those updates was firefox related.)

> ...but why would you not be using synaptic?


because I never heard of synaptic until yesterday.

Four days ago, I had never heard of "apt-get". But in the last four
days, it has worked three times for me. I decided that I am going
to learn how to use apt-get.

It appears to me that synaptic is a gui which builds a cosmetic layer
between the user and the underlying working function. I would first
like to understand apt-get.

I wonder if apt-get is a layer built over dpkg?
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