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Old 06-23-2008, 05:10 PM
soup_or_power@yahoo.com
 
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Ping and DUP's

Hi
I am trying to ping a host by IP and getting DUP. The man page says it
is a hardware problem. When I do wget with the host IP I am getting
html response code 400. Apparently there is nothing wrong with the
host. Can anyone help me figure this out? These are the commands I
used at the linux command prompt.

ping 198.252.230.11

wget -drc http://198.252.230.11:9504/VendorSSO...PartnerID=yyyy

I also ran traceroute and didn't receive any hits. All the hops
printed 3 asterisks. BTW, I am working from the linux host
172.16.170.25 just so that you know the remote host is not on the same
subnet.

I was thinking there is something wrong with the router(s). Since I
don't have access to them, I am at a loss to understand how to isolate
the problem.

Thanks for your help
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:03 PM
Lew Pitcher
 
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Re: Ping and DUP's

In comp.os.linux.networking, soup_or_power@yahoo.com wrote:

> Hi
> I am trying to ping a host by IP and getting DUP. The man page says it
> is a hardware problem.


Typically, a DUP comes as a result of more than one node using the target IP
address. Yes, this is a hardware problem, in that only one of those nodes
can legitimately "own" the IP address, and all the other responders suffer
from some misconfiguration.

Recognize that, if more than one destination claims a specific IP address,
the underlying network (i.e. Ethernet) often cannot properly route data to
the destination node.

> When I do wget with the host IP I am getting
> html response code 400. Apparently there is nothing wrong with the
> host. Can anyone help me figure this out? These are the commands I
> used at the linux command prompt.
>
> ping 198.252.230.11
>
> wget -drc
>

http://198.252.230.11:9504/VendorSSO...PartnerID=yyyy
>
> I also ran traceroute and didn't receive any hits. All the hops
> printed 3 asterisks.


Firewalled?

> BTW, I am working from the linux host
> 172.16.170.25 just so that you know the remote host is not on the same
> subnet.
>
> I was thinking there is something wrong with the router(s). Since I
> don't have access to them, I am at a loss to understand how to isolate
> the problem.
>
> Thanks for your help


--
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------


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Old 06-23-2008, 06:06 PM
soup_or_power@yahoo.com
 
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Re: Ping and DUP's

On Jun 23, 2:03*pm, Lew Pitcher <lpitc...@teksavvy.com> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.networking, soup_or_po...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Hi
> > I am trying to ping a host by IP and getting DUP. The man page says it
> > is a hardware problem.

>
> Typically, a DUP comes as a result of more than one node using the targetIP
> address. Yes, this is a hardware problem, in that only one of those nodes
> can legitimately "own" the IP address, and all the other responders suffer
> from some misconfiguration.
>
> Recognize that, if more than one destination claims a specific IP address,
> the underlying network (i.e. Ethernet) often cannot properly route data to
> the destination node.
>
> > When I do wget with the host IP I am getting
> > html response code 400. Apparently there is nothing wrong with the *
> > host. Can anyone help me figure this out? These are the commands I
> > used at the linux command prompt.

>
> > ping 198.252.230.11

>
> > wget * *-drc

>
> http://198.252.230.11:9504/VendorSSO...PartnerID=yyyy
>
>
>
> > I also ran traceroute and didn't receive any hits. All the hops
> > printed 3 asterisks.

>
> Firewalled?


That is very likely. I would like to rule out hardware failure in
which case I will leave it upto the powers be in my org. Since ping
has shown DUP's, how definitive is it that the problem is with
hardware?

Thanks for your help
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:22 AM
Rohit
 
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Re: Ping and DUP's

On Jun 23, 11:06 pm, "soup_or_po...@yahoo.com"
<soup_or_po...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 2:03 pm, Lew Pitcher <lpitc...@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In comp.os.linux.networking, soup_or_po...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I am trying to ping a host by IP and getting DUP. The man page says it
> > > is a hardware problem.

>
> > Typically, a DUP comes as a result of more than one node using the target IP
> > address. Yes, this is a hardware problem, in that only one of those nodes
> > can legitimately "own" the IP address, and all the other responders suffer
> > from some misconfiguration.

>
> > Recognize that, if more than one destination claims a specific IP address,
> > the underlying network (i.e. Ethernet) often cannot properly route data to
> > the destination node.

>
> > > When I do wget with the host IP I am getting
> > > html response code 400. Apparently there is nothing wrong with the
> > > host. Can anyone help me figure this out? These are the commands I
> > > used at the linux command prompt.

>
> > > ping 198.252.230.11

>
> > > wget -drc

>
> >http://198.252.230.11:9504/VendorSSO...PartnerID=yyyy

>
> > > I also ran traceroute and didn't receive any hits. All the hops
> > > printed 3 asterisks.

>
> > Firewalled?

>
> That is very likely. I would like to rule out hardware failure in
> which case I will leave it upto the powers be in my org. Since ping
> has shown DUP's, how definitive is it that the problem is with
> hardware?
>
> Thanks for your help


It might just be the network driver issue if you are using custom
driver

-- Rohit
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:22 AM
soup_or_power@yahoo.com
 
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Re: Ping and DUP's

On Jun 24, 3:22*am, Rohit <will.u.tellmem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 11:06 pm, "soup_or_po...@yahoo.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <soup_or_po...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 23, 2:03 pm, Lew Pitcher <lpitc...@teksavvy.com> wrote:

>
> > > In comp.os.linux.networking, soup_or_po...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > > I am trying to ping a host by IP and getting DUP. The man page saysit
> > > > is a hardware problem.

>
> > > Typically, a DUP comes as a result of more than one node using the target IP
> > > address. Yes, this is a hardware problem, in that only one of those nodes
> > > can legitimately "own" the IP address, and all the other responders suffer
> > > from some misconfiguration.

>
> > > Recognize that, if more than one destination claims a specific IP address,
> > > the underlying network (i.e. Ethernet) often cannot properly route data to
> > > the destination node.

>
> > > > When I do wget with the host IP I am getting
> > > > html response code 400. Apparently there is nothing wrong with the
> > > > host. Can anyone help me figure this out? These are the commands I
> > > > used at the linux command prompt.

>
> > > > ping 198.252.230.11

>
> > > > wget * *-drc

>
> > >http://198.252.230.11:9504/VendorSSO...PartnerID=yyyy

>
> > > > I also ran traceroute and didn't receive any hits. All the hops
> > > > printed 3 asterisks.

>
> > > Firewalled?

>
> > That is very likely. I would like to rule out hardware failure in
> > which case I will leave it upto the powers be in my org. Since ping
> > has shown DUP's, how definitive is it that the problem is with
> > hardware?

>
> > Thanks for your help

>
> It might just be the network driver issue if you are using custom
> driver
>
> -- Rohit- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


The set up used to work. We made some changes to the IP address of
hosts in the 172.16.170.0 subnet. Basically we switched .42 and .43
to .43 and .42. The ARP caches were refreshed. The former .42 used to
connect without probs. After its switch to .43 the connection was
broken.

Assuming the problem is with network drivers, how do I install the
drivers? Do I need a CD from the manufacturer?

Thanks for your help
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Old 06-25-2008, 06:27 PM
Rohit
 
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Re: Ping and DUP's

On Jun 24, 4:22 pm, "soup_or_po...@yahoo.com"
<soup_or_po...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 3:22 am, Rohit <will.u.tellmem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 23, 11:06 pm, "soup_or_po...@yahoo.com"

>
> > <soup_or_po...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 23, 2:03 pm, Lew Pitcher <lpitc...@teksavvy.com> wrote:

>
> > > > In comp.os.linux.networking, soup_or_po...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > Hi
> > > > > I am trying to ping a host by IP and getting DUP. The man page says it
> > > > > is a hardware problem.

>
> > > > Typically, a DUP comes as a result of more than one node using the target IP
> > > > address. Yes, this is a hardware problem, in that only one of those nodes
> > > > can legitimately "own" the IP address, and all the other responders suffer
> > > > from some misconfiguration.

>
> > > > Recognize that, if more than one destination claims a specific IP address,
> > > > the underlying network (i.e. Ethernet) often cannot properly route data to
> > > > the destination node.

>
> > > > > When I do wget with the host IP I am getting
> > > > > html response code 400. Apparently there is nothing wrong with the
> > > > > host. Can anyone help me figure this out? These are the commands I
> > > > > used at the linux command prompt.

>
> > > > > ping 198.252.230.11

>
> > > > > wget -drc

>
> > > >http://198.252.230.11:9504/VendorSSO...PartnerID=yyyy

>
> > > > > I also ran traceroute and didn't receive any hits. All the hops
> > > > > printed 3 asterisks.

>
> > > > Firewalled?

>
> > > That is very likely. I would like to rule out hardware failure in
> > > which case I will leave it upto the powers be in my org. Since ping
> > > has shown DUP's, how definitive is it that the problem is with
> > > hardware?

>
> > > Thanks for your help

>
> > It might just be the network driver issue if you are using custom
> > driver

>
> > -- Rohit- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> The set up used to work. We made some changes to the IP address of
> hosts in the 172.16.170.0 subnet. Basically we switched .42 and .43
> to .43 and .42. The ARP caches were refreshed. The former .42 used to
> connect without probs. After its switch to .43 the connection was
> broken.
>
> Assuming the problem is with network drivers, how do I install the
> drivers? Do I need a CD from the manufacturer?
>
> Thanks for your help


If you are using standard driver (one that comes with os ) and have
not made any changes to it, it is very unlikely that this is driver
issue in that case.You should look @ other places for the issue then

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Old 06-30-2008, 01:46 PM
soup_or_power@yahoo.com
 
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Re: Ping and DUP's

On Jun 25, 2:27*pm, Rohit <will.u.tellmem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 4:22 pm, "soup_or_po...@yahoo.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <soup_or_po...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 24, 3:22 am, Rohit <will.u.tellmem...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Jun 23, 11:06 pm, "soup_or_po...@yahoo.com"

>
> > > <soup_or_po...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 23, 2:03 pm, Lew Pitcher <lpitc...@teksavvy.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > In comp.os.linux.networking, soup_or_po...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > I am trying to ping a host by IP and getting DUP. The man page says it
> > > > > > is a hardware problem.

>
> > > > > Typically, a DUP comes as a result of more than one node using thetarget IP
> > > > > address. Yes, this is a hardware problem, in that only one of those nodes
> > > > > can legitimately "own" the IP address, and all the other responders suffer
> > > > > from some misconfiguration.

>
> > > > > Recognize that, if more than one destination claims a specific IP address,
> > > > > the underlying network (i.e. Ethernet) often cannot properly routedata to
> > > > > the destination node.

>
> > > > > > When I do wget with the host IP I am getting
> > > > > > html response code 400. Apparently there is nothing wrong with the
> > > > > > host. Can anyone help me figure this out? These are the commandsI
> > > > > > used at the linux command prompt.

>
> > > > > > ping 198.252.230.11

>
> > > > > > wget * *-drc

>
> > > > >http://198.252.230.11:9504/VendorSSO...PartnerID=yyyy

>
> > > > > > I also ran traceroute and didn't receive any hits. All the hops
> > > > > > printed 3 asterisks.

>
> > > > > Firewalled?

>
> > > > That is very likely. I would like to rule out hardware failure in
> > > > which case I will leave it upto the powers be in my org. Since ping
> > > > has shown DUP's, how definitive is it that the problem is with
> > > > hardware?

>
> > > > Thanks for your help

>
> > > It might just be the network driver issue if you are using custom
> > > driver

>
> > > -- Rohit- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > The set up used to work. We made some changes to the IP address of
> > hosts in the 172.16.170.0 subnet. Basically we switched .42 and .43
> > to .43 and .42. The ARP caches were refreshed. The former .42 used to
> > connect without probs. After its switch to .43 the connection was
> > broken.

>
> > Assuming the problem is with network drivers, how do I install the
> > drivers? Do I need a CD from the manufacturer?

>
> > Thanks for your help

>
> If you are using standard driver *(one that comes with os *) and have
> not made any changes to it, it is very unlikely that this is driver
> issue in that case.You should look @ other places for the issue then- Hidequoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


The connection was not any more the problem. The DUP's in the ping
still are. The ping man page predicts dire
consequences if this is not fixed immediately. For now I will ignore
it. Is that a good idea?

Thanks
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