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Old 07-23-2008, 06:22 PM
Bob H
 
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Outpost firewall wont run

I just installed latest version of Agnitum Outpost Fireawll, and
rebooted my winXP sp3 machine, and although a tray icon loads, when I
click on it it says (greyed out)service not ready. I then try to start
the said program and it says I don't have sufficient rights to do that.
I am logged in as Admin, so whats wrong?

Thanks
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:49 AM
Kayman
 
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Re: Outpost firewall wont run

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:22:22 +0000, Bob H wrote:

> I just installed latest version of Agnitum Outpost Fireawll, and
> rebooted my winXP sp3 machine, and although a tray icon loads, when I
> click on it it says (greyed out)service not ready. I then try to start
> the said program and it says I don't have sufficient rights to do that.
> I am logged in as Admin, so whats wrong?
>

I'd uninstall this application and look for a much better alternative!
Keep on reading:
For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an 'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.

Activate and utilize the Win XP built-in Firewall; Uncheck *all* Programs
and Services under the Exception tab.
Read through:

Understanding Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...2_wfintro.mspx

Using Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nfirewall.mspx

PFW Criticism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...all#Criticisms

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...l-is-free.aspx

Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...s/default.aspx
Scroll down to:
"Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."

Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theaterˇXitˇ¦s a gimmick that only gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
does improve your security."

In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135, 137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.

If you're really serious about Internet Security:
1. Do not work as Administrator; For day-to-day work routinely use a
Limited User Account (LUA).
2. Secure (Harden) your operating system.
3. Don't expose services to public networks.
4. Keep your operating (OS) system (and all software on it)updated/patched.
5. Reconsider the usage of IE and OE.
5a.Secure (Harden) Internet Explorer.
6. Review your installed 3rd party software applications/utilities; Remove
clutter, *including* 3rd party software personal (so-called) firewall
application (PFW) - the one which claims: "It can stop/control malicious
outbound traffic".
7. If on dial-up Internet connection, activate the build-in firewall and
configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport protocol for NetBIOS,
SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,137-139 and 445 (the most
exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
7a.If on high-speed Internet connection use a router.
For the average homeuser it is suggested blocking both TCP and UDP ports
135 ~ 139 and 445 on the router and implement countermeasures against
DNSChanger.
And (just in case) Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP) has been
superseded by Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) :-)
8. Routinely practice Safe-Hex.

Also, ensure you do:
a. Regularly back-up data/files.
b. Familiarize yourself with crash recovery tools and re-installing your
operating system (OS).
b. Utilize a good-quality real-time anti-virus application and some vital
system monitoring utilities/applications.
c. Keep abreast of the latest developments.

And finally:
Most computer magazines and/or (computer) specialized websites are *biased*
i.e. heavily weighted towards the (advertisement) dollar almighty!
Therefore:
a. Don't fall for software applications touted in publications relying on
advertisement revenue.
b. Do take their *test-results* of various software with a *considerable*
amount of salt!
c. Which also applies to their *investigative* in-depth test reports
related to any software applications.
d. Investigate claims made by software manufacturer *prior* downloading
their software; Subscribing to non-commercial type publications, (to
some extend) specialized newsgroups and/or fora are a great way to find
out the 'nitty-gritties' and to consider various options.

Wanna know details? Go ahead and ask :-)
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:33 PM
Bob H
 
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Re: Outpost firewall wont run

Kayman wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:22:22 +0000, Bob H wrote:
>
>> I just installed latest version of Agnitum Outpost Fireawll, and
>> rebooted my winXP sp3 machine, and although a tray icon loads, when I
>> click on it it says (greyed out)service not ready. I then try to start
>> the said program and it says I don't have sufficient rights to do that.
>> I am logged in as Admin, so whats wrong?
>>

> I'd uninstall this application and look for a much better alternative!
> Keep on reading:
> For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job
> at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an 'real-time'
> anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
> protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
> The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not
> give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots
> of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.
>
> Activate and utilize the Win XP built-in Firewall; Uncheck *all* Programs
> and Services under the Exception tab.
> Read through:
>
> Understanding Windows Firewall.
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...2_wfintro.mspx
>
> Using Windows Firewall.
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nfirewall.mspx
>
> PFW Criticism.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...all#Criticisms
>
> At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...l-is-free.aspx
>
> Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...s/default.aspx
> Scroll down to:
> "Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."
>
> Exploring the windows Firewall.
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx
> "Outbound protection is security theaterˇXitˇ¦s a gimmick that only gives the
> impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
> does improve your security."
>
> In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
> Seconfig XP 1.0
> http://seconfig.sytes.net/
> Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
> protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135, 137-139
> and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
>
> If you're really serious about Internet Security:
> 1. Do not work as Administrator; For day-to-day work routinely use a
> Limited User Account (LUA).
> 2. Secure (Harden) your operating system.
> 3. Don't expose services to public networks.
> 4. Keep your operating (OS) system (and all software on it)updated/patched.
> 5. Reconsider the usage of IE and OE.
> 5a.Secure (Harden) Internet Explorer.
> 6. Review your installed 3rd party software applications/utilities; Remove
> clutter, *including* 3rd party software personal (so-called) firewall
> application (PFW) - the one which claims: "It can stop/control malicious
> outbound traffic".
> 7. If on dial-up Internet connection, activate the build-in firewall and
> configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport protocol for NetBIOS,
> SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,137-139 and 445 (the most
> exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
> 7a.If on high-speed Internet connection use a router.
> For the average homeuser it is suggested blocking both TCP and UDP ports
> 135 ~ 139 and 445 on the router and implement countermeasures against
> DNSChanger.
> And (just in case) Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP) has been
> superseded by Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) :-)
> 8. Routinely practice Safe-Hex.
>
> Also, ensure you do:
> a. Regularly back-up data/files.
> b. Familiarize yourself with crash recovery tools and re-installing your
> operating system (OS).
> b. Utilize a good-quality real-time anti-virus application and some vital
> system monitoring utilities/applications.
> c. Keep abreast of the latest developments.
>
> And finally:
> Most computer magazines and/or (computer) specialized websites are *biased*
> i.e. heavily weighted towards the (advertisement) dollar almighty!
> Therefore:
> a. Don't fall for software applications touted in publications relying on
> advertisement revenue.
> b. Do take their *test-results* of various software with a *considerable*
> amount of salt!
> c. Which also applies to their *investigative* in-depth test reports
> related to any software applications.
> d. Investigate claims made by software manufacturer *prior* downloading
> their software; Subscribing to non-commercial type publications, (to
> some extend) specialized newsgroups and/or fora are a great way to find
> out the 'nitty-gritties' and to consider various options.
>
> Wanna know details? Go ahead and ask :-)


Thanks for the info.
I downloaded and installed Online Armor free personal firewall after
checking site reviews of firewalls. Comodo free came out pretty
good/better, but it won't even install on my box.
I have used a router for about 4 years now to connect 2 machines to the 'net
I already had seconfigXP,but didn't have it in use, doh! I have now.

Thanks
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:39 AM
Kayman
 
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Re: Outpost firewall wont run

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:33:01 +0000, Bob H wrote:

<snip for brevity>
>
> Thanks for the info.


You're welcome...

> I downloaded and installed Online Armor free personal firewall after
> checking site reviews of firewalls. Comodo free came out pretty
> good/better, but it won't even install on my box.


....it would be beneficial reading the articles. But if you have may I ask
your reasons for deciding on PFW? (It can't be outbound control, can it?).

> I have used a router for about 4 years now to connect 2 machines to the 'net
> I already had seconfigXP,but didn't have it in use, doh! I have now.


Did you implement countermeasures against DNSChanger as well?


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Old 07-25-2008, 03:35 PM
Bob H
 
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Re: Outpost firewall wont run

Kayman wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:33:01 +0000, Bob H wrote:
>
> <snip for brevity>
>> Thanks for the info.

>
> You're welcome...
>
>> I downloaded and installed Online Armor free personal firewall after
>> checking site reviews of firewalls. Comodo free came out pretty
>> good/better, but it won't even install on my box.

>
> ...it would be beneficial reading the articles. But if you have may I ask
> your reasons for deciding on PFW? (It can't be outbound control, can it?).
>
>> I have used a router for about 4 years now to connect 2 machines to the 'net
>> I already had seconfigXP,but didn't have it in use, doh! I have now.

>
> Did you implement countermeasures against DNSChanger as well?
>
>


Actually I did read most of what was said in the articles, and from that
am I lead to believe that windowsxp's own firewall is better than any
PFW. If so, I have wrongly assumed that a PFW was better, so that was my
reason for installing one.
mmm, implenting DNSChanger, I can't see in SeconfigXP where that would
be done.
Thanks
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:34 AM
Kayman
 
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Re: Outpost firewall wont run

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:35:56 +0000, Bob H wrote:

> Kayman wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:33:01 +0000, Bob H wrote:
>>
>> <snip for brevity>
>>> Thanks for the info.

>>
>> You're welcome...
>>
>>> I downloaded and installed Online Armor free personal firewall after
>>> checking site reviews of firewalls. Comodo free came out pretty
>>> good/better, but it won't even install on my box.

>>
>> ...it would be beneficial reading the articles. But if you have may I ask
>> your reasons for deciding on PFW? (It can't be outbound control, can it?).
>>
>>> I have used a router for about 4 years now to connect 2 machines to the 'net
>>> I already had seconfigXP,but didn't have it in use, doh! I have now.

>>
>> Did you implement countermeasures against DNSChanger as well?
>>

>
> Actually I did read most of what was said in the articles, and from that
> am I lead to believe that windowsxp's own firewall is better than any
> PFW. If so, I have wrongly assumed that a PFW was better, so that was my
> reason for installing one.


Well, since you seem to understand the issue you can do something about it,
can't you?

> mmm, implenting DNSChanger, I can't see in SeconfigXP where that would
> be done.


You may have read 'most' of what was said in the articles but missed "Wanna
know details? Go ahead and ask :-)" at the conclusion of my post.
You mentioned: "I have used a router for about 4 years now...". I would
think that you have a User Guide for this router as well which should
describe various (possible) configuration implementations.
I assumed you'd know what I was talking about. Anyway, have a look at this:
"Implement countermeasures against DNSChanger".
http://extremesecurity.blogspot.com/...-hijacked.html
HINT: These recommendations are related to router configurations.
Good luck :)
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